Can medium gear blizz sorc farm countesss efiiciently?

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I ve started season 3, just 10 days ago, and i did a lighting sorc cuz i need to farm keys for my main char ( smiter pala).
Ligting sorc is very fast on arcane sanctuary and countess. Not so good on nohalack , but can do it. The problem i got with her is that i cant play TZ or cows cuz is very underpiwered with the gear i got.
Tal rasha ( amu+ armor+ belt)
Spirit shield+ weapon
Rare head ( 2 skills) and rare boots with resistences. My merc has insight on eth colosus voulgue. Zero skiller charms.
Cant afford infinity, and if i could i wouldnt spend runes in it i prefer enigma for mu pala main.
I have looted a sunder cold, and i am questioning in spending my last akara skill reset to swapp to blizzard.

I know that with cold i will be able to do hell cows, some chaos runs, some tzs , arcane and nihalak key farming better than lighting siorc, but what makes me doubt more is countess.
I need to farm her for mid runes and keys , and with sunder nerfs i am not sure if i will be able to fast farm
Her with blizzzard.
Some1 who has a blizzard not mucha gereaded ( like mine) can teñl me
How is her? Can be farmed? Is time to swapp blizzard?

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The Countess is cold immune, so it won’t be as efficient as other Sorc/teleporting builds farming her in Hell difficulty.

Unless of course your mercenary can kill her in a few hits after you use Static on her.

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with a cold sunder you can easily do her with blizzard. even frozen orb if /players 1
make sure to max cold mastery, if you dont MAX cold mastery then it isnt good. also if you wear even something as simple as a Wizendraw -35% cold resist on weapon swap, then you win the game.

it’s weird how people dont even know that Wizendraw is literally BiS budget for cold sorc, 10x better than any +5 skill option, better than hoto spirit, better than anything until you start getting Doom and facets. With just Wizendraw and max coold mastery you have -65% cold res on immunes. It’s literally like a poison necro getting Deaths Web. Wizendraw should be as valuable as a deaths web.

Wizendraw is literally like going back to pre-nerf cold mastery + sunder charm. You can clear the entire game with ease.

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I got cta on weapon swap.
And i kill easy countess on players 8 with ligting build. I usually enter in cows or baal runs to kill her. And he dies from some lightings no need to cast static.
And i got zero skillers neither infonity.

I know she is fire and cold inmune, thats why i ask !!! Then with blizzard is gonna be much worse than what cows and chaos sanctuaarybisngonna improve of my change of build?

I am lvl 91 i can risk to take of cta to swich weapon for -25% cold damage cuz if i die i loose many exp. I prefer tje extra mana and life boost.

Then cold inmunity is not broken even for a low hp as is countess?

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dont max cold mastery…just have enough points for -150% cold Resists with gear on

Static Countess Pack…Blizzard and Glacial Spike blast her

drop fairly quick

however…i hightly recommend to lvl up to 94 b4 you consider killing her to get max dmg output…beyond 94 its mostly tz farming to lvl and take a decent amount of time to go up

edit: gonna go do a quick P8 run see if much difference from P1…on p1 its almost instant kill
edit 2:…done the test…still instant drop on P8…lvl 33 Blizzard…lvl 26 cold mastery(-145%)…should gain a cta in like 2-4 next day…so i left my mastery 1 point lower than 150% in expectation of soon to have cta

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Blood thank u very much!!!
That was what i needed!!! Some1 who tryed and explains. Thank you for ure empathy!!! When i finish work i change from lighting to blizzard. I was bored of not beeing able to run cows or sanctuary cuz cleaning speed with lighting was absolutly disapointing.

If i wasnt respecting was just for countess afraid.
I will cast a blizzard, tele in middle pack (while 1,8 secs delay and cast 3 statics , then tele out and second wizard and frost balls, and therd blizzard and more frists if needed.
With this i think she will die for sure. Thats a good time.

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that is old advice, this patch is different. you want maximum cold mastery now. you want maximum because every single point counts as damage now on cold immunes. Sunder reduces immunes to 95%, and cold mastery works as 1/5th from there. So -150% is going to get the immunes to 65% cold resist, but say -200% is going to drop the immune mob to 55%. So there is never a wasted point into cold mastery. -cold resist% items and facets are absolutely king now, but before you get those, you wont get better value than cold mastery. going from -150% to -200% is like putting on a free cold griffons in damage.

-resist% is 10 times the damage of +element damage%

Sure you’ll say “well -150% is wasted on non cold immunes”, but most all non cold immunes die just as fast with max cold mastery as they do if you stayed at -150% and stuck the points into synergies, so you’re getting far more value from saving time versus cold immunes than you are killing non cold immunes slightly faster but not really because the last hit is generally just overkill and you’re not really saving any casts.

times have changed

i mean it’s -35% which is like wearing 3 griffons at the same time but cold instead. people really dont understand the mechanics of this game and lean on trends too much. a griphons is worth several ber runes, yet people dont think it’s worth wearing wizendraw on swap for a specific cold immune super unique farm.

i mean in the end it’s just countess so as long as you are cold and not fire, and have max cold mastery, you can wear anything really, so rocking CTA is perfectly fine since cold mastery is so op.

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not old advice…still valid even after sunder nerf

extra -7% on sundered enemies is a huge waste of points which can be use on synergies vs BOTH non-sundered and sundered

non-sundered enemies have generally 50% cold resists…-150% drop them to -100%(they can’t go bellow -100%…aka cold Mastery does nothing pass that point vs non-sundered

a single point in cold mastery is equal to -1% vs sundered(due to 1/5 effectiveness)…aka huge waste of point

at -150% you get -25% vs sundered which is plenty…an additionnal -7% wont make any serious difference vs sundered

my base cold mastery is lvl 13(so if i max(which would be a waste) it has no solid effect vs non-sunderer

instead of gaining a bonus -7% vs sunderer i rather get +70% synergies for ice blast//glacial spike from Frozen Orb which take effect VS BOTH sundered and non-sunder

if you read my post countess drop like a fly even on P8 and she’s sundered…goal of the game is not to prioritize cold immunes hunt but to be as effective as possible vs non-immunes…Countess being 1 of the main hunt is a good thing she’s die quick even after sundered

if countess had a huge HP pool…some extra mastery would not hurt…however it would harm gameplay for ALL other areas which is not a good thing

on a note: have fun with Wizendraw vs Nilathak…that Corpse Explosion will 1 shot you without BO XD…especially if he’s cursed

beside countess farming…the only other enemy he would snipe that has a chance to spawn with cold immune is Nilathak himself

if he rush ppl ? Dark Wood(at the tree), Claw Temple, Ruined Temple, Toorc Icefist, Lord De Seis, Frozenstein
…Frozenstein being the only one that give me a bit of a rough time as a sundered enemy

MFing ?(no areas, unless he’s go after all TZ maps)…extra mastery serve no purpose for MFing in general
Countess ? she’s ez exploded
Nilathak ?(if he roll cold immune he can be brutal but that extra pierce wont rly change anything vs him)…stand on a corpse and boom you go anyway

so my question is…why do you want him to have more than 150% mastery ? Frozenstein,Nilathaks ? because thats pretty much the only 2 enemies which it would help with…meanwhile he can get huge dps boost vs everything else when he mf or rush ppl

EDIT: hectorin…Lightning is actually rly powerfull btw, BUT you need Infinity on Merc to get the most out of it…can power up even further with Crescent Moon and Griffon…normally Light build is meant to be a 0% MF build but…if you want a working MF Version that is strong and viable here…look at this…HOWEVER…be warn…its quite expensive to make a MF version work solidly on a Light Sorc(as you shall see for yourself)

EDIT 2: alternatively you have this cheaper version
maxroll gg/d2/d2planner/q30106hl
105% fcr bp(-1 frame for lightning//chain that require 117% fcr)
-35% mf
+10% Lightning Pierce

EDIT 3: removed the more expensive path…think the cheaper one actually better after reflection…u get to keep best teleport speed and get 10% better pierce…which is better than 1 bonus frame to lightning//chain lightning cast speed and 30% mf bonus

EDIT 4: nvm expensive path still better…37k > 27k + 10% bonus pierce XD…re-added in edit 4 post
maxroll gg/d2/d2planner/z301067b
forgot to recheck the lightning/chain lightning dmg output after swapping the stuff

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i think you’re confused. this op is farming countess. it’s a countess build, not Nilathak. A countess budget build. he has spirits. he’s not 80 BER NOVA SORC.

With cheap gear and 1 sunder charm, just max blizzard and max cold mastery and farm away np. Want a cheap option to delete anything? wizendraw on swap.

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yes yes i know that he is budget(maybe eventually down the path he would want overkill power when he can afford)…so still letting him know

edit: however maxing cold mastery is still a big no no…CTA > Wizendraw for survival
…let alone that constant swapping between cta//wizen for zones needing sunder and the ones that dont need to be sunder would get very annoying…then that 1 single uncommon pack lead having cold immune…also Wizendraw could never ever compete vs Death Fathom + Spirit Shield…Fathom almost double up cold dmg entirely on its own(although i doubth he has fathom so lets put it off the table for now)

edit 2: if he’s just spamming countess all day long i suppose wizendraw on swap wont hurt vs her as tower enemies are relatively weak…but generaly its best to have cta on swap…but eh…if he want a bow just for countess while sacrificing storage space…up to him…i can’t mule stuff on my side so i need as much open room as possible

there can partially agree with you for once…although i generaly refuse to give any thought to your posts at this point as you do too much trolling on the forum

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well for one, the hilarity is that Wizendraw is literally equal to Death’s Fathom + spirit

try it on maxroll, they are equal in blizzard damage (on cold immunes) with sunder. the difference is the price. So anyone starting out, can literally just get a wizendraw for almost nothin and match DF/S.

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wizendraw has no fcr, no block even if it could potentially do equal dmg vs sundered enemies…big squishyness for using it and would do poor casts of glacial//ice blast
so it loose entirely vs fathom//spirit

as for enemies that dont need sundering…wizendraw do literaly nothing

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Just report Bravata and move on. Remember he found a +3 ele rare diadem and wants to know why people don’t make bulwark in +5 nado helms. Arguing with him is like arguing with Adam Lanza.

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i mean min/max yah, but budget “need to deal with hell cold immunes” nothing beats wizendraw. it’s literally crescent moon, which is huge deal now. blizzard doesnt often go very high FCR anyway, and you have frozen armor ect. i’m not suggesting this as a end game build, just to cover the beginning before you cross that precipice of wealth for other options.

im not trolling you, i like your conversation, that guy above is a bully.

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Guitar: he actually had a small point for once(but only for particular scenario)…but for the rest just no go…also i’am not aggravated enough by him/her to click report yet…although i’am at the point where i skip a few of his posts as its not worth my time in general

well…if enough ppl are angry enough at him he definetly going on vacation…i let forum peeps decide his fate…

Brava: u can say wtv ya want dude, i have no plan to take you seriously though for most of what you write…your D2 experience dont look very good to me and all the trolling you do on forum dont rly help to take you seriously…maybe fix your reputation first…and assuming some of your posts aren’t meant for trolling…it clearly lack experience…with this time to go pew pew for now…D2 calling to me…as well as other non-D2 stuff

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her. :face_with_hand_over_mouth: :slightly_smiling_face: :blush:

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I kill the Countess with Hydras and the merc with Insight. I also have found a sunder charm with -74% fire resist. Maybe this did it? I will go check if she is Fire Immune.

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I mean they are right here though. I mean ffs people are talking about blocking with spirit shield… and needing FHR for countess runs…

Maxing Cold Mastery is also the way to go if you are dealing with lots of cold immunes. Which with how the game is played now, is basically always.

Blizz sorc doesn’t NEED extra damage against non cold immunes… A level 70 sorc with no torch/anni/skillers and two synergies can already kill every non cold immune just fine.

TBH screw the CTA never saw a need for one in softcore. dual spirit or wizspike/spirit for tp, pull out a wizendraw blizzard her, loot and repeat.

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i meant that fire doesnt have any cheap options for -enemy fire resist, so with a fire sunder it’s going to take you a lot longer to kill her off at 95% resist, so if you’re farming her specifically then never go as fire unless you have at least a flickering flame or Tal’s weapon. Which do you use? full Tal’s?

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I do not farm The Countess, I play very little only last couple of days, because I am still effed off for the lack of extra stash tabs and have to play “inventory management” rather than the game itself.

However I did some runs and noticed that yes, my Hydras take ages to kill anything in the Terror zones, it is my lightning or my merc who kills things. I should need to respec into fire now that I have got the sunder charm, but I think chain lightning suits my playstyle better.

But again, let me say, I only played D2R the last couple of days for like an hour, if that, , as I am bored with WoW, and once I did a few M+16, plus ~350 M+ I am done with WoW for the moment.