Call to Arms is more obnoxious than Enigma or Grief.
Every class except Barb has to use it. Yes, CTA and Battle Order are more ubiquitous than Enigma and Teleport.
Barb is already the weakest class by almost any metric. Yet, we give its strongest mechanic to everyone else for free (weapon swap requires no gear sacrifice, that’s what I mean).
It lets all the strongest classes go full glass canon and still have 2k-2.5k+ hp with no defensive gear at all.
It also hurts Druid balance, which is pretty much the 2nd worst class. Oak sage is really strong like BO, but with CTA it just gives you ‘‘too much’’ hp instead of giving you a relevant edge compared to other classes with better damage and farm speed.
Removing BO from CTA would make weapon swap actually interesting. You could switch from Eschuta to Fathom with a Meteorb sorc or switch from Grief to Azurewrath to kill physical immune monsters. Use Phoenix shield to heal, Demon Limb to buff, Naj to tele or even use a wand with charges to curse.
Removing BO would also force some of the higher dps glass canon specs like Hammer, Javs, Blizz, Psn, Summons, Traps, etc. to use some more defensive items. Going full damage would still be an option, but with a clear downside. The trickier balance between damage and survivability would probably help a lot with build diversity.
And lets be honest, having to rebuff the warcries every 3 minutes when you’re not a Barb is just annoying gameplay.
Would it be a huge change? Of course. But I think it would almost certainly be a change in the right direction to make the game more interesting. Also, I just though about it, it would somewhat nerf Enigma and Teleport since jumping in a pack of monster would become much riskier.
Whine whine whine. Remove BO and you’ll have something else annoying you’d want removed. I’ve played games where Enigma was altered and I quite frankly didn’t like it. I’ve already explored every corner of this games maps, and I’ll tell you this. I don’t want to have to run through it all over and over again. I want the option to speed to bosses.
I’m losing track of all this absurdity, if you guys had your way, as soon as we booted up D2R we’d just get a blank screen, because you took everything out.
Slight correction:
Druid isn’t the second worst class, it is the worst class. Barb is highly successful in PVP as WW, in PVM as seal popping chaos-/piztserker, frenzy barb or goldfind travi barb. Barb is the 2nd most successful mf build in the game after sorc.
Barb is the 3rd most played char behind sorc and paladin.
Druid has got windy in PVP and that’s it. Ask for buffs to you class instead.
I would even argue that it is THE BEST Class for MF once you get Enigma on a Pitzerker! The Singing Barb can also gather some obsecene quantity of MF on him, even more than the Zerker. And now that Warcry has been buffed it’s gonna be even more viable.
They don’t know so they spout nonsense nonstop. He has to become some flashy AOE anime wannabe sorc chars slaying masses for them and their useless streamers to be regarded as “good”. Most gg items are found by horking or gambling at anya.
CTA is absolutely necessary for balance. What is absurd is the fact that it takes up the secondary slot.
Just like all casters MUST use enigma to be viable. All characters MUST use CTA to be viable.
Agree, friend lent me a Call to Arms phase blade to use over the weekend… WOW!
Using it on my Zeal/Fanta pally was a true pleasure… and yes, I typically run with a mid grade Grief. Now I need to make a Call to Arms pb.
Same friend gave me an Enigma to use a while back… it’s cool, I gave it back, it did not complement my walk around and kill everything play style.
And for everyone that thinks Grief is the be all end all, that same friend, who has a Grief in his inventory, prefers ethBOTD I gave him to use on his Barb.
This makes me believe you should build characters you enjoy, and play the way you enjoy, and worry less about what folks gripe about being BiS.
Honestly…you don’t have to use CTA. I could have made probably 20 CTAs by this point, but it’s really so unnecessary I haven’t felt the need to. Plus the extra added annoyance of buffing and rebuffing, and essentially losing your weapon swap option, it’s just not worth it for me, right now anyway. And please spare me, I know how good and strong CTA is and blah blah blah yet somehow someway I continue to get through the game doing whatever I want to do just fine without its buff, so 🤷
Agree with you … I always felt like CTA was wayyy to much … if they don’t remove it at least they should Hard cap the maximun it can get from + all skill … Make the barb great again for party play !