Frenzy Barb - which one is better to pair with my grief - azure or lawbringer
Another grief or beast
i know, but i am not rich enough… so my options are azure or lawbringer… like the decr but sometimes its bad because overwrites life tap from my dracul`s… azure have magic and cold damage, but cannot use the full might from grief 
Lawbringer by a thousand miles. You would need to change gloves though.
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Depends if you want to use Find item. If you dont care about horking, use Azurewrath, if you care, use Lawbringer.
Not a good option, sanctuary helps with immune to physical dmg, griefs wont do much to them. Or Lawbringer helps you to deal with groups of monster attacking you, and since you dotn use shield, its very useful.
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Just a note on this. The corose will only be decimated of its the lawbringer that kills the mob. 99% of the time it will be the grief.
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Lawbringer…as Mizzo said…dont use Lifetap procs items along Lawbringer
Steelrend is your go to gloves(after doing some maths in nother frenzy barb tread yesterday its the best choice for Grief + Lawbringer weapons combo)…which is also the best weapons combo
if you cant get Steelrend use laying of hands
note: however to set a speedkill record it require Atma amulet(but its way less reliable for the proc)…i doubth thats your goal…so…Lawbringer is the better option for a more reliable proc//more consistency
Lawbringer. The Decrep is such a strong assistance that not having it hurts you. Not only does it act as an offensive tool, but the slow on it helps you defensively as well when you have an army surrounding you. It’s also nice when you’re in an area surrounded by Undead like in Chaos Sanctuary. When a ln Oblivion Mages applies Amplify Damage to you, the aura pushes back the Oblivion knights from all coming at you at the same time and killing you instantly.
IMHO, lawbringer is a must have. The utility you get from it is too high.
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there are multiple factors, if u rely on dracs then u should go with azurewrath, if not you should go with lawbringer
sanctuary aura itself already will ignored the physical immunites and resistances of undead, which most physical immunes are.
but decrepify will be better vs non undead physical immunes
azure also gives better elemental damage though. and has a higher attack speed
its really your choice, they are both good choices.
if u are fighting mostly undead, or you need sustain from life tap then i would go with azure.
otherwise lawbringer decrepify is amazing and also more useful to the party with other physical damage dealers
Thanks guys, that was very helpful 
Never thought of Atma’s before. I will lose 20 IAS from my Highlord’s but will gain it back from the Laying of Hands. Also will lose the deadly strike, but will gain Amplify damage.
After reading everything I’ve searched in YouTube for Atma’s and a guy called Coooley has a video, in which he is showing that thanks to Atma’s, he made new record by defeating the Ubers for one minute and twenty seconds. Previous was 1:41 i think (video was uploaded in July last year). I am not going after any records but speed helps you farming faster so i will give it a go 
I’ve just bought low ranged Steelrend for Lem (33ED 18 STR 206DEF) so the additional 10% crushing blow will help a lot.
So now i can think of replacing the Lawbringer with Death. I have the Vex, so i have to find/trade for Gul and make it in eth CB or CS. Will lose the sanctuary aura thou. It is helping so much in almost every single 85lvl area but will gain powerful weapon with high amount of crushing blow and deadly strike… and will hope that Atma will take care of the rest
First i will try the previous setups and after that i will think if it is worthy to invest a Vex and a Gul to something that I won’t need (not so wealthy as I mentioned before) or rather save them for another Lo for Fortitude
Anyways thank you so much for your help and wish you all the best in the new year Be healthy
djib as i said…atma is inconsistant
while it may enable you to get 1 epic run out of 5 that do better than lawbringer…Law bringer will let you stay consistant for every run
the only skill that can actually reliably high proc Atma is Strafe(up to 7 shots from 1 use)…+3 bow skills faith//brand…20 base skill…4 skill anni/torch…1 bow skill gc
Strafe shoot out 1 additionnal arrow at single target for every 4 sp in Strafe
so lvl 28 Strafe = 7 arrows shot every 3 frames…lvl 36 is the hightest you can get with full set up of bow GC(9 arrows)…potentially 10 arrow with +3 to bow gloves and battle command…but that mean sacrificing Steelrend…just for 1 extra arrow shot
And now when I am thinking of it, I can still use the aura. Can give the Lawbringer or the Azure to Act 5 mercenary. Maybe the Azure will be better, because I will rely on amplify damage. Later i even can craft a Beast for the Fanaticism aura…
Just i thought that wanted to share
I would suggest you use death only on boss’ or Ubers and keep your Lawbringer in your offhand. For farming purposes lawbringer is your best side option hands down. Some ppl even use it on Ubers because the decrepify is that useful.
Try death in the other hand if you want, but you’ll probably switch it to lawbringer and it won’t take long. It’s just too good. If I were you, I’d put my eye on making a Grief. Once you get Grief, everything feels like childs play. You can clear the entire game with 8 players in it with very little problems.
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I had this same dilemma with my main char, a frenzy barba
At first I used Grief + Lawbringer, then I found Azure and it paired better with grief (and dracs gloves), faster kill rate.
After a while I aquired a Lo and made another Grief which is really faster than any other combo.Just use Berserk for phys immunes, the speed at which you kill with 2 griefs far outewighs anytyhing else.
Until you make another Grief, Azure is great!
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