Allow free and easy skill resets (again)

[Shadout-2849]

@Kiadaw-2262

The idea to learn from mistake is cool, but many people are working adults with IRL committment & I do not see spending 40 hours to reset to try another 80 hours is appealing to most.

Allow more generous respec will greatly promote experimentation & cool meme/non meta builds instead of follow a guide.
Unless you are full time streamers / no- lifer, spendings double digit hours trying meme/experimnetal build is something many will try.

It shouldn’t exactly take 40 hours to reach endgame with a new character, and doesnt in D2.

I am fine with having respecs, as long as they are fairly limited. So you cant respec between monsters or activities. And a respec cost you cant just farm and over time be able to respec endlessly.
Like, maybe an A-RPG (and not talking D2, D2 respeccing should stay as it is, or only have 3 respecs ever) should just automatically give you one free respec each 2-4 weeks (and you can have max 2 respecs at any time). Plus, if there are balance patches, you get a free respec as well.
That should be enough for trying all kinds of new builds over time. And since it is time-based, you have no way to circumvent it.

@Kiadaw-2262

I played enough ARPG, last epoch, POE, D3, Grim dawn, Wolcen

PoE is not super cheap to respec, although still not a good respec system imo (too cheap to respec partly, and skill gems are easy to change). GD and Wolcen is way too cheap imo.

As for testing something before committing, maybe add an Arena to the game, where you can enter, and pick whatever build you wand, and whatever enemies you want to fight. It offers no rewards of course, but can be used to test out stuff.

@Kiadaw-2262

Most just want to make fun enjoyable builds & do not care if their build is similar to others

I also dont care the slightest about whether somones build look like what others are using.
I care about how fast you can respec your own character, no matter what you are speccing from and to.

A build is about making choices and play with the consequences of those choices. Each build having different strengths and weaknesses.

If you can just respec when your fire only sorc meets a fire immune enemy (ignoring for a moment that immunities is pretty bad game design) , the entire concept of a having a build falls apart.
Whatever the respec cost is, it needs to prevent players from respeccing for every occasion (monsters, different gameplay activities etc.), otherwise allowing your character to be perfect at everything, ignoring all weaknesses, and consequences.

[taliesin1614-1920]

@Kiadaw-2262

POE

Lol that was a very bad example of easy respecing. Get a char to around 85+ and see how expensive and not easy that is

[Kiadaw-2262]

@taliesin1614-1920

Lol that was a very bad example of easy respecing. Get a char to around 85+ and see how expensive and not easy that is

Its not expensive. I posted above how its not expensive. As for not easy. Thats exactly what I said!!! respec is not easy as in its takes time. Which is why even with “free” spec in game, it will not be exploited, as in changing build every 5 mins, but forgiving enough to try new builds when you have the gears or ideas.

[Gannicus-2491]

PoE gives you respecs by currency to make decissions what tree point you want to respec or the total respec chances by each update. When new leagues start, you automatically get a full respec for all your Non league characters.
D2 gives free three respecs by doing the story quests. If you want or need more, you can earn your respec or simply make a new toon.
Maybe they should also give 3 respecs again when a major patch hits, so noone could complain that after update their build would not work anymore. Just refill the act1 respecs.

Sometimes it happens even to me, not looking exactly what have clicked when I wanted to make trade in act1 with NPC vendor and stupidly even clicked ok to take my first respec at level17. I wanted to use this after completing normal, so shiiiid happens.
Should I go forum and complain? No, I learned from it. Sometimes if you getting tired, have a break or do some misclicks.

[Hai-2384]

I had to level up 4 assassins just to learn which skills sucked. It’s quite meaningless.

[FajraKatviro-1941]

@Zilliman-2511

which one is “fun”

Make mistakes, discover game mechanics and repeat from the scratch. This one is fun.

Instead of allowing free respecs, they should completely remove respec system. As it was in 1.10. As it should be.

[Relden-11263]

After doing a lot of thinking, I’ve come to the conclusion that the reason these requests even exist, is the mindset was created by the gaming industry itself.

Ever since the beginning of video gaming, with the ability to resurrect characters magically, it has provided a disconnect in what we would consider difficulty.

The reason people don’t consider it challenging is because the very essence of the game isn’t challenging to them when they can just magically resurrect their characters. So now they just trivialize everything.

I’m starting to believe the only way to resolve this is to start creating more games with an unforgiving atmosphere.

[Bugles-2611]

i would like to se this sofit people play when ther was no reset. one wrong move, you needed to make a new char, here would be sooooo much more crying, good times