Add rune downgrade formula for horadric cube

Not sure why this was never implemented but it seems to me the simple formula of
6 Perf skulls + 1 Rune = 1 Lower grade rune

6 Perf Skulls + 1 Cham = 1 Jah
6 Perf Skulls + 1 Jah = 1 Ber

I believe this would give the players more flexibility(QoL) as well as increase the value of perfect skulls, cham, and zod runes.
It would make Jah and Ber a touch less valuable, but would that be a bad thing?

I wonder what everyone else thinks.

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No it should be way more expensive… 2 Cham + Um or another equivalent rune, = Jah.

Soj + 2 Higher Rune= 1 Lower Rune.

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PSkulls are already pretty valued. Could use another gem for sure tho.

I would like the idea, tons of haters won’t tho. I’m fine with making zod/cham more useful even if it means sacrificing them for a “lower” rune lol.

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I’m not sure how this could possibly be considered QoL.

But anyway, make it backwards. 2 cham + perfect skull = 1 Jah.

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It would basically turn 90% of Zod or Cham into jah runes. I don’t like it as probably even less items would be used.

Now you can’t do much besides just use those runes for secondary items. So if you happen to find them you just might try out a botd or Cham a helmet because there is no greater value in it. If you could just downgrade you would just use it for another enigma or faith or dream

Keep it as it is

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What if we could reverse the force of gravity?

What if we could age backwards???

Pandemonium.

it’s nice in theory, but if people would be able to do that, there will be no where for Cham to be found on the market because everyone are just rerolling it

There’ll be plenty of cham on the market if its a 1-1 downgrade.

Nobody would downgrade from Cham to Jah for the giggles.

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you won’t see many people holding on to it if they can have a Jah instead

So i just delete the option of having a Cham?? Why not hold onto that option for free?

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I think this is fair especially considering you would be loosing .5 of the rune value by only getting 1 in return instead of 2. Not sure why people are not for opening up options

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You can’t do this without breaking the game. The rune hierarchy is broken. The concept of cubing runes at all, up or down, is broken. The players have already organized runes more intelligently than the hierarchy presented by the game: low, mid, high.

Within each bracket, the rune values are completely independent from their position in the hierarchy. This is immensely true for high runes. There is no sense or reason between high rune position on the hierarchy, their drop chances relative to each other, and their actual value.

Here’s a perfect example of someone’s brain melting trying to make a “balanced” downgrade recipe for high runes. It’s not possible. The whole system would need to be revamped, and that includes all current mid and low runewords.

You need to stop talking as if you are an expert… You are FAR from it.

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Because you said so? You have some of the worst opinions and takes on this forum, and you never defend them. You make responses asserting that something is right or wrong and expect it to be gospel. You’re a worthless fixture here.

Take this response for instance, not a single counterpoint, just an assertion that I should not talk. Time and time again, you open your mouth and prove that you have nothing to contribute. You barely understand how this game works.

Interesting concept. Technically it would make Zod the most valuable, as it can be any rune.

Cham the 2nd most valuable and so on.

That is ideally how the value should work, rarest being the most valuable.

Just happens that the best runewords don’t require the rarest runes, which was an interesting design choice.

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A lot of these ideas seem great on paper, but they avoid the real issue. Drop rates don’t reflect the actual rune value. Even if you could downgrade runes to an HR that you need, the cost of an exponentially rarer rune that could still have use is going to stop players from doing this. An HR on hand is still a valuable thing even if the player has no immediate use for it. Basically, Zod is so rare that burning it down to a Ber might not always be a great idea.

HRs need to be given the same drop chance within their bracket of “high rune”. The devs can keep trying to shove Cham runeword at the players, but the best runewords still don’t use Cham or Zod.

Kid, I have forgotten more about this game than you will ever know. I dont need any counterpoint other than to tell you to shut up while adults are talking.

I get it, you want the game easier because zoom zoom and being spoonfed is in your DNA.
OP suggested 6 perf skulls makes a Jah out of a Cham and your good with that? That says all I need without offering any more context. Those who know, know how bad that would be for the game.

D2 has always been about earning it, every suggestion you ever make or support, contradicts that because thats your MO.

I cringed. 20 characters.

As expected. Thanks for proving me right. Now unless you have anything constructive to contribute, stop spamming a good topic.

I can’t tell if this is bait or if you truly lack self-awareness.

No, I flatly rejected it. If you could read, you would know that. But you don’t read, you see names and go on these childish attacks, because you’re a child.