Fill your inventory with big items, drop it on the boss before its dead, people spamming auto loot will fill their inventory with trash loots.
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It isn’t consoles that are a problem because there isn’t cross play.
The problem is PC users playing with a controller.
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Or they will think of some counter play like fill even spaces of lowest inventory line with potions and they won’t pick up any 4x2 items. But you will end up collecting this stupid stuff for the 2nd attempt.
Really, stop with these stupid ideas. Ploot is the only solution for this. Idk why people are so stubborn.
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Personally, I was fine with what ever route they wanted to go with loot. Sure, it is nice to keep the OG way but now that controllers are allowed on PC and able to loot like that, then I am kind of on board now with Ploot since it is an insanely unfair advantage with a controller which in the original D2 there was no controller support.
inb4: “Get a controller then.”
Mmmm nah. Shouldn’t have to. Original D2 didn’t have controller support so don’t be a hypocrite about ploot not being in original D2 yet controller loot is fine.
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Yes. You should drop 2-6 slots items, not 8. A bit more clicks, but the result is much better. If you are fast enough, you can also add some stamina potions.
The problem is bad loot system for co-op.
It literally favours douchebags.
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Then pre-lowest line and drink your potions once I picked them. It will take for you more efforts to prepare this trap than for me to deal with it, and you can only annoy one person at time also will have to deal with the most of that trash by yourself.
I’m not a controller user, I only play offline currently as don’t see any reason to go online. I just really tired of these ideas. The sooner people unite for ploot the sooner everyone will be happily playing without dealing with all such sorts of things.
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It’s simple. The game catered to narcissists and douchebags rather than working towards cooperation.
And as a result it has chased away less egotistical players from public games.
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well, dont play with randos? if you want to control the loot then find a group to play with that all agree to drops…i cant imagine playing diablo with a controller but this issue is a you problem. you could,idk,play solo? ploot is for those who cant figure it out, go play wow where your little gear is custom fit for all your needs so it doesnt get jacked
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I guess you can say that. After all the people who are standing for loot system to remain unchanged were expecting to ninja loot from other players but ironically enough got screwed by controller users in the end.
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or… ask for change.
What is it with people like you that think an answer like that is remotely valid?
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OK, what version of ploot do you suggest? the one where you only see your items? if so, then there are 2 outcomes, The game feels like its dropping less loot because you see less, or they make more loot drop (total) which inflates the market and therefore you have to remove trading (lol not gonna happen you would have to completely revamp how runes drop) or else the game might as well just have bots already with how many items will be available.
You want the version where you see it all but only can pick up your piece then after a few seconds the others become available? So now, you see that zod rune on the ground, but you dont even have a CHANCE to pick it up? feels bad… This honeslty would be no different than adding a 1 second delay between picking up items so everyone has a shot.
The honest easier alternative would be dont let controller players play with kb/m but that sounds like a coding nightmare and people wouldnt like that either.
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because it is valid? 1) just not playing multiplayer with random people is the exact way to solve the “problem” how is that not a solution genius… 2) people like me dont live in a bubble where we need to be catered too like children 3) there is literally no “auto loot” function on pc for controller users so this whole thread is completely stupid much like your response of “ask for change”, ya already did and the devs said no, so either figure it out or get out? oh oh here ya go maybe instead of just not playing online with random people you could create a game online with only you in it and then you can loot everything without having to worry about someone being faster because THERES NO AUTO LOOT FUNCTION YOU APE
EDIT: so i went and got my series x controller and paired it with my pc to see what advantages i get…there are literally none, its easier to left click the name to have it go into your inventory instead of trying to use the controller because the controller wont highlight the item you want sometime…amazing, also NO AUTO LOOT FUNCTION
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I can see only 2 valid options for ploot implementation:
- the same amount of loot and it is decided by game core who gets what, you only see your share. On average you will get the same as with FFA if everyone had fairly equal abilities to pick up their items. It is fair, but you will see a lot less items, but again it is the same as without ploot, the only difference is now you see all the items and with ploot you see only items you would pick up.
- private loot when everyone gets their own drops like they are in single player. This is will increase amount of items in multiplayer, but won’t affect anything else e.g. trading, because currently farming items in multiplayer is impossible, it is a lot more efficient to do it in a private game and with that ploot it will become possible to do the same in multiplayer, the only difference will be in which mode people will farm items for themselves. As a bonus it will be easier to trade with people you play as you can instantly propose what you just found. Like a mode where multiple people are connected but still are farming for themselves.
No timers of course, these are all options like the 1st one just making it worse, inventing different other obstacles and in the end you will get you share of items anyway.
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honestly, i feel the only thing holding back a PLOOT system is the runes. A zod rune is something like… 1 in 5000 or something and that is IF the monster rolled to drop a rune in the first place AND only on mobs over level 81. Imagine seeing the zod and not having a chance to pick it up AT ALL. thats what makes all version of ploot feel bad (to me anyway).
It only looks like this, but actualy it is fair. There is only one rune and 8 players, you all will see it and one of you will pick it up. In FFA you compete who clicks first, in ploot the game core decides who gets that rune. In the end only one of you will own it.
If you don’t like this then I suggest voting for 2nd option as there everyone will get full drops for themselves and your chances won’t be ruined. After all this situation is partially created by the fact that there is only one piece of loot for everyone in multiplayer currently. The ultimate solution currently is to not play multiplayer with strangers or at all, this way you will have all loot to yourself.
Then you will not pick up death fatom, ormus and all other x3 cells item. Totally fine.
Because joining games with people you don’t know should be an option for everyone? You shouldn’t need a group of friends to be able to play multiplayer. Being at an inherent disadvantage due to some using a controller is easily fixable.
No, people like you just throw tantrums anytime someone asks to introduce a loot system option that you don’t have to use.
No? You mean a person with a controller has to hover a mouse cursor over the loot they want, then click it in order to puck it up? Oh yeah, they don’t… they just spam a button.
I believe the devs said they weren’t going to loot at auto loot before launch. I also believe they said it can be a discussion after launch. Guess what, the game has launched. Who is being the cry baby now?
Says the guy fighting to give people the option of an auto loot system. It’s funny how you people tell others they are crying about loot while crying about not wanting auto loot.
So you think a person with a mouse can click on the loot that they want that Baal dropped and pick it up before someone (or a couple of someone’s) with a controller can vacuum it all up? Yeah… who is the delusional one here.
A mouse may be better in small area with an ocean of drops, like in Baals throne room, but the controller user can still get lucky and snatch it up with zero effort before anyone has the chance.
Yea and your second option removes playing by yourself entirely. Why play alone and get all the gear when you can play in a full party and get all the gear? That’s silly.
Your first option is fair. I will give you that. But Diablo 2 is not fair, like at all. Having RNG pick your drops doesn’t feel the same as fighting for it, it’s a little competition with peers after working together first. It can be done, it’s just that you have to learn to compensate for weakness in that char.
You play ranged and can’t get all the drops? Well then get closer to the action. In partied games there is no reason to hang all the way in the back when things die quickly or mobs are targeting other players. Are you a tank but can’t kill? Keep an eye on monster health. Know when things are about to die and expect a zod every time.
People want ploot because they don’t have time to play and/or are lazy. They don’t want to get too involved with the game and just want to be able to get what they want without too much effort. I’m not saying that it’s bad, I’m just saying that people play d2 differently, everybody plays their own way. If there is no way to play that’s fun for you then flat out play something else, no one will miss you, the game won’t die, people will continue to play their way.
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