i look your video , happy you enjoy it , but in term of faster clean speed 2xGrief with Fortitude kill way faster and also way cheaper with only 3 lo and 2 mal vs vex zod charm vex jah ber a bit a waste for less power, also in a 2 or 3 player game you will lost so much time because the lack of power
Iāve done that build mate, and all other cookiecutter ones, Iām just trying out diff stuff on non ladder now
Also a forti barb with dual griefs wonāt be as fast purely because of the limited mobility even tho he has a faster killspeed than the enigma one. I think I have a clip on my channel with dual griefs (toy swords) and forti and it takes about 2:20-2:40 to finish a chaos run (clear)
I gotta try this 2 handed sword business 
most of your info are wrong sry i`m not agree ,
you will kill so much slower of me , and fact you can not deny my build end so much cheaper also i`m able to trade the blade too other melee class . and is already prove everywhere . Grief pb and Guillaumeās Face is best in slow for barb and also so cheap you waste player time and currency with your wrong info and he all know new player have hard time to fram
good thing Iām not a new player then ;)) have fun mate!
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I have done a few tests with different combos
Atm the build has 20fcr, using dual rf or rf+bk and new Baba savage helm
- Death by itself when 2 handed is very powerful, chaos runs in the 2 min range.
- Gface does not seem to bring that much to the table when used with death
- Grief as we all know is very strong in either company
- Personal favourite is still Death/Ebotd with the 5bo helm, new record 1:51 chaos run
Theyāre all very similar and run in the 2 min range consistently, including two handed death which is incredible.
Grief + Ebotd / Baba helm
Ebotd + Death / Gface
Death + Ebotd / Baba Helm
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Good job with the tests. Try the run with 2x grief pb with a guilli on for reference. The big + with the two handed death is super high minimal damage and berserk damage. As you could see in my vid, I could take out annoying foes with a single berserk or two. With WW alone, it takes longer to single out the unique/champ and if he is physical immune, youāre wasting dps with WW. Grief pb does less damage than edeath with berserk. I have to check out Charley22ās version of grief pb + phoenix shield. I am not a friend of no item find but a test wouldnāt hurt for pure clear speed.
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Thanks mate,
yes the phoenix shield ideea
feels a bit slower, especially on boss kill, redemption is nice clearly
I can also feel the shorter range of the blade
Also look how stupid the char looks lol
Phoenix version is slower because it does less damage. Have a look at maxroll:
grief+phoenix
edeath colossus blade
WW calculation is wrong at maxroll, both hit 6.25 times per second. Letās dissect:
grief pb WW damage range is 6207-8163 => average damage is 7185. I use guilliamoās face with grief, deadly strike is calculated wrong with maxroll. The chance for DS is 20% (grief) + 15% (guilli) + 15%(gores)+37%(highlords) = 87%. So the average damage per hit is 7185 * 1.87 = 13435.95 per hit. You hit 6.25 times per second so the damage per second (dps) = 6.25*13435.95 = 83975.
Edeath CB range is 4892-11242. Average damage is 8067. Edeath has got 100% deadly strike with highlords and gores so the average damage per hit is 2 x 8067 = 16134. You hit 6.25 times with it, so
dps = 6.25 * 100837.
You do 20% more damage per hit, have got more range a super strong berserk damage. The berserk damage at maxroll is incorrect of course.
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That is amazing!
Actually itās 150%. When the 50% is applied the original 100% regular damage of the maul is turned to undead damage.
Hence my build is broken in D2R.
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I loaded up my D2LoD barb to D2R and cleared chaos in 3:20. I am killing every monster though and horking uniques and champs. A strange thing happens while whirlwinding where my barb just stops and I have to reclick to get him to ww again. This doesnāt happen in D2LoD. Kill speed is good, but not as good as it should be. Diablo drops in 1 second still.
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You guys obviously know what youāre doing! Could I hijack with a side question?
Early this year I built a travincal WW for the first time. Grief PB/broken weapon bug. Arreats, laying of hands, string, gores, highlords, duress, max damage/ar charms. It was a blast, easy, only a PI required paying attention.
Now, this week, same build and gear. Except I donāt have highlords yet, everything is the same. It feels clunky. Not the same damage. Every 5-6 runs Iām running for my life. Is this the WW change affecting the build? Canāt be just a highlords and my gear is pretty close minus highlords and a torch.
Broken weapon bug allowed you to hit 12.5 times per second with both weapons. Without it, you do half the damage (6.25 attacks with one weapon). You probably also miss a lot of those 6.25 because of the short range unless you tri WW closely (dangerous with the council).
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2nd try, today was a good day
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Why are you so rich?
Iād reroll in a 15ed base only.
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Well I never really play ladder, and have been doing trav runs with my mf horker like a madman this past year, managed to get some real gg stuff like that rare 5bo helm I showed you a few months ago (which Iāve sold for 5 bers on traderie)
Also not that rich to buy a 15ed cb base, the price people are asking for these atm is mind boggling, last guy I talked to on traderie asked for 7 bers and laughed at me when I offered 1 ber :))
Btw dual Death CB with 75 total ias in gear for 4fpa is the new king imo. It feels the meatiest, everything the blades touch, dies instantly. P8 runs feel a lot faster.
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Let me teach you another trick then. Put 1 point in frenzy and put frenzy on your left click. Attack with frenzy first until you get your stacks then with WW. See everything melt For longer duration of the effect, put some points into increased stamina.
Hehe thanks mate, Dhrolie on the trade forum here told me about this one, been meaning to try it, Iāve heard it shreds
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I killed dia clone in hc with an experimental setup. Have a look:
There is no need for open wounds.
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Very cool ideea, my favourite weapon of old, new patch makes shaeled grandpa viable at 4fpa