This discussion has already pretty much come to a close on that specific topic. The term was used in what Emet felt was an aggressing and “casting blame” nature that some countries and peoples find offensive and he was valid in feeling that way. How was Emet to know what country said term has a more lighter tone in without Aqure saying so after the fact?
Chicken and egg. No one is there because it’s too hard to form groups. Automating it makes it much easier so people keep doing the content which means there is people doing the content.
you people is easier - however, if we are going to start having an hour long discussion every time I use the term I will find something else.
No, Emet was not.
I do not immediately “validate” people’s “offense” like that, and neither should you. This is why the world is messed up right now. We have generations of people thinking “being offened” at the slightest of verbal inflections should be vaildated.
This is akin to people saying “you guys” to denote a group of people and someone crying out “I’m not a guy!” It’s idiotic to think someone saying that was being immediately offensive to a member of that group.
I have never heard anyone think that "you people was inherently racist. That’s just someone looking to be offended and that needs to grow up.
Keep using it. Emet is a clown if that was “offensive”.
Those of us that actually understand how English works won’t be offended at all.
“You People” has been used as a term for years in the US against certain demographics of people (not sure other countries) to in terms “Place someone beneath you” aka you’re basically calling them inferior or lesser.
US is dealing with a lot of this type of rhetoric and its getting worse. You’re invalidating peoples suffering. I can’t stop him from using it, but helping him understand WHY it set Emet off helps.
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I’ve lived in the US my entire life. People that get offended by the term have only been doing that recently are were looking to be offended by it.
“you people” is no more than an “us vs them” terminology, and it was picked up by people that felt that were being oppressed by their race (which IS a valid feeling to have) to further their offense (which ISN’T vaild).
You need to help Emet grow up instead. See above. I’m not “invalidating” anyone’s offense here. Parsing over language like this is WHY we are having trouble with this rhetoric, and you’re enabling it.
You need to stop being an enabler. Help people to understand that not everything everyone says is always offensive instead.
Could I have handled it differently? Yes. Could I have been more open to both sides? Yes. But the fact of the matter is Aqure was not doing any favors for himself by doubling down on his belittling behavior’s, adding haha and the clown emoji instead of just coming right out and saying “Well in my country it doesn’t meant this.”
Emet was defending to the best he could in that situation when he felt he was being attacked. In my eyes I saw Aqure on the attack. Could I be wrong? Maybe. But I did not see Aqure defending his use of the term with “In my country-” which would have most likely prompted a “Oh well in my country its not a good term” from Emet.
No one was deescalating and the issue would have blown out of proportion until a mod likely was forced to step in and close this discussion that had nothing to do with their quarrel.
Literally… the situation could have ended with out my intervention if one side had just said “In my country-” or “My bad, where I’m from it means this.”
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I think part of the problem is they released it so soon after releasing Forbidden Reach and the fact they nerfed the rares to only be looted once every few days. That sealed its fate for me and I haven’t really been back since.
I thought the point was to kill the rares, do the events/dailies and the digs. It was disheartening to me because my rng was so bad already and hadn’t gotten what I wanted off of the rares yet and I knew some people were already done or close to done.
I’m not complaining and I’m glad they’re releasing new content in a timely fashion, but ZC killed FR then they killed ZC with the nerf imo.
Hot diggity this thread went off the rails.
TL;DR, ZC died less than a month after it was released and as a result, a lot of its content is completely blocked off. Especially to non-cheese classes.
Lesson? Dunno. Maybe don’t release too much too quickly for a dwindling playerbase? There is such a thing as too much stuff I guess. Also don’t mess with loot lockouts.
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This to be quite frank. Content is moving too fast for people to really simmer in it for a good while. And when ZC was fresh they killed in not long after its inception with the change to rares.
If they want to save past and future content they need to not make such drastic changes while the content is live.
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after players got the mounts rep and other thing done we dont go to ZC
only time ZC sees action is the 2 dragon flight WQ
also that weekly event is not popping like it did the new one is 10X better in getting some loot and armor
As secondary objectives?
So…what’s the primary objective then? WQs? Trumpet events? Last time I saw anyone doing a trumpet event was about 3 billion years ago when dinosaurs still roamed the land.
All of you should be.
I didn’t make the rule that said non-cc members can’t reply to posts in CC forums. I’d love nothing more than to have you all voice your opinions in the topics we make. But the powers that be said no. 
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ZC objectives.
I’m guessing the primary reason would be the half a spark.
Then farming spores.
Maybe farming rep to get the mounts, pets and the gear.
There’s at least 1 pair of champion shoes one can buy from Harlowe Marl in the central dome that can be upgraded to i437.
And that’s really about it. The drop rates from the rares and world bosses are so low and the weekly lockout make them irrelevant, so no point in doing those events.
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There are FP and there are no portal to and from there. I have vision issue and flying into the cave is something give me issue so no I avoid that place if i can. I literally just use a regular mount and walk into the cave
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All the maps show is the location of the elites but most of them is inside a cave and finding the cave entrance is annoying. The map should should you the entrance of the cave where the elites are and then guide you to it with arrows once you are inside
3 is hard to solo as a dps. I have no problem soloing the elites as a tank spec or a BM hunter but as a dps spec no way you can do it.
If you had War Mode enabled, Zaralek Caverns was empty from day one. No reason to go down there. I still haven’t done the world boss (can’t remember name) because there’s never been a group or the encounter bugged and no loot was given.
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the problem with any “catch up” content, is that people on their mains use it to catch up and then they move on. And people grind hard to catch up fast.
alts come along later only to find out that the area is a ghost town.
forbidden reach got you a really good item at that time. for many of us, the annulet was the highest ilevel item we had. now that it is nerfed, and better gear is dropping or craftable elsewhere, there is little/no reason to go to the caverns or the reach.
I go to the caverns because there are a couple of places I like to farm and there are the dragon riding dailies were you can make 1k gold for a couple of minutes of zooming around. that is about that.
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It’s not the content people are complaining about, it’s the fact you need 10 people for one rare and most of the community has finished that part of the game If it was a 3 or 5 person rare it’s doable solo.
I’m not asking for them to one shot rares just doable for those of us who want to do it as current.
ZM rares were doable before the zone gear was maxxed out.
Depending how many groups there are available at certain times. It’s late when I get home from work and the time people log off and call it a night. This is Horde side.
I learned rift groups don’t form late night on Horde side, so I switch over to my Alliance character to continue rifts.
I would have to experiment with Alliance to see what kind of groups are available late at night.
