It takes the notoriety of red-shirt guy to write a insanely detailed and well argued blog post to get the Tyrande & Nathanos fight changed to be reasonable.
It really only ever takes one-three forums posts for Horde ptr content to change--> which is literally what happened with the Saurfang questline.
I don't see a huge disparity. One guy makes a blog post(don't forget the dozens of forum and reddit posts too) VS dozens of forum/reddit posts on the other side. Both sides complained, it all got changed.
It's pretty well known that the alliance have always been arguably worse in BGs, except for two famous exceptions, so... I can see where they're coming from with the joke.
I think Alliance is ok this expac, but the story really needs more people working on it. I mean we don't even know what these raids are about.
I knew someone would complain about this good-spirited joke lol
Itās not āgood spiritedā when there really is an obvious, GLARING imbalance.
Just like itās not āharmless flirtingā if youāre the CEO.
You can't blame Alliance sucking at pvp on racial imbalances lol. They've been pretty bad and scattered for a while. You know the Alliance war campaign? I felt that really showcased how scattered the Alliance is. They were all over the place at first, and in the end of it they became a cohesive force. They realized they had more in common with each other than previously thought. Keeshan admired Kelsey and found they had loads in common, and the Night Elf archer realized she cared for her human counterparts and valued all life.
Its never been a secret of how bad Alliance is at pvp, I mean back in the day my buddies would farm the graveyard of AB not letting Alliance out lol. Its a common joke in my Alliance guilds, they know. And some of the really good Alliance pvpers decide to go Horde. Why is it? I doubt its because of racials.
Seriously though, Horde has jabs too, like the ongoing Warchief joke. It was a fun spirited panel. There was no ill-wishes or hatred. The guy was jolly, and he even made a jab at Horde after he made the jab at Alliance. Stop trying to read more into it. Youre getting yourselves worked up for no reason.
I knew someone would complain about this good-spirited joke lol
Itās not āgood spiritedā when there really is an obvious, GLARING imbalance.
Just like itās not āharmless flirtingā if youāre the CEO.
It's "good spirited" when it's directed at the opposing faction. The imbalance has been there for a really long time, take the bike contest for example. Horde won the poll by a ton of votes. If it was always as balanced as they claim it is then that is a confession that Horde cheated during the voting process for the free bike.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=288418/blizzcon-2018-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-and-chris-robinson-azshara-rises-na
-Can Horde characters ever really be jealous of an Alliance character?
Hey look, another "totally not mean spirited joke" at the expense of the Alliance. Who saw that coming.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=288418/blizzcon-2018-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-and-chris-robinson-azshara-rises-na
-Can Horde characters ever really be jealous of an Alliance character?
Hey look, another "totally not mean spirited joke" at the expense of the Alliance. Who saw that coming.
Okay but Ion plays Alliance lol. So if he's joking about Alliance he's joking at himself.
11/03/2018 08:14 PMPosted by
Daiyu
...Itās not āgood spiritedā when there really is an obvious, GLARING imbalance.
Just like itās not āharmless flirtingā if youāre the CEO.
It's "good spirited" when it's directed at the opposing faction. The imbalance has been there for a really long time, take the bike contest for example. Horde won the poll by a ton of votes. If it was always as balanced as they claim it is then that is a confession that Horde cheated during the voting process for the free bike.
Itās āpunching downā, and itās not āgood spiritedā no matter how the Hordebros on the dev team thought they meant it. Itās making fun of someone because of a disability then telling them ālighten up, I was only jokingā.
The developers wonāt even ADMIT that there is an imbalance, which is insulting all on its own, but when they pair it with digs at the Alliance, theyāre flat-out being contemptuous, mean-spirited, and gaslighting.
11/03/2018 08:21 PMPosted by
DeƄdra
https://www.wowhead.com/news=288418/blizzcon-2018-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-and-chris-robinson-azshara-rises-na
-Can Horde characters ever really be jealous of an Alliance character?
Hey look, another "totally not mean spirited joke" at the expense of the Alliance. Who saw that coming.
Okay but Ion plays Alliance lol. So if he's joking about Alliance he's joking at himself.
Ion literally takes pride in the fact that he's never gotten Double Agent. He's played the same Orc Shaman since day 1 vanilla, and has stated multiple, multiple times he will never roll Alliance.
Which is probably why every encounter for the last 4 expansions has blatantly favored Horde to the point of making it almost impossible to raid Mythic on Alliance.
11/03/2018 07:34 PMPosted by
Fuyukko
But Everyman for himself handles roots, stuns, fears..
EMFH only works on stuns, and shares a CD with trinket.
Will of the Forsaken, on the other hand....
11/03/2018 05:46 PMPosted by
Aedrid
I liked how all the āloreā questions for the QandA were based on the Horde storyline.
Almost as if Alliance isnāt in this expac at all ....
Last xpac was mostly Alliance based and Horde players were just kind of there because we had to be, get over it.
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11/03/2018 08:21 PMPosted by
DeƄdra
https://www.wowhead.com/news=288418/blizzcon-2018-interview-with-ion-hazzikostas-and-chris-robinson-azshara-rises-na
-Can Horde characters ever really be jealous of an Alliance character?
Hey look, another "totally not mean spirited joke" at the expense of the Alliance. Who saw that coming.
Okay but Ion plays Alliance lol. So if he's joking about Alliance he's joking at himself.
Thatās funny, I didnāt realize Alliance had Orcs:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/malganis/gurgthock
11/03/2018 05:46 PMPosted by
Aedrid
I liked how all the āloreā questions for the QandA were based on the Horde storyline.
Almost as if Alliance isnāt in this expac at all ....
Last xpac was mostly Alliance based and Horde players were just kind of there because we had to be, get over it.
So the Faction Pride expansion is the one where Alliance also get told to just sit down, shut up and enjoy whatever garbage table scraps that are left over?
How about you piss right off
11/03/2018 08:13 PMPosted by
DeƄdra
You can't blame Alliance sucking at pvp on racial imbalances lol
Horde sure as hell did during the six months or so EMFH was a good racial in WoD, and alliance win rates starting matching horde winrates. And that got nerfed within the expansion.
Arcane Torrent? Nearly 14 years, and it's, "nerf," state is beneficial to one of the hardest bosses in Uldir, and is still really, really strong elsewhere.
Ahh Battle for Azeroth, even reaching to the forums to cause factions to argue pointlessly about how the other faction gets more love.
Continue the hate loves, you gave them the idea for this expansion you know.
11/03/2018 08:30 PMPosted by
DeƄdra
Ahh Battle for Azeroth, even reaching to the forums to cause factions to argue pointlessly about how the other faction gets more love.
Continue the hate loves, you gave them the idea for this expansion you know.
Either post on your level 120 Horde main or shut the hell up
What feature is this exactly and where can I read/watch about it?
Thanks.
11/03/2018 08:21 PMPosted by
DeƄdra
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Okay but Ion plays Alliance lol. So if he's joking about Alliance he's joking at himself.
Thatās funny, I didnāt realize Alliance had Orcs:
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/malganis/gurgthock
...Honor level 4? I am a casual in the highest sense of the word, and I have a higher hlvl than that.
He doesn't PvP, and that explains so, so much.
2018, where tons of people are overly sensitive
11/03/2018 08:30 PMPosted by
DeƄdra
Ahh Battle for Azeroth, even reaching to the forums to cause factions to argue pointlessly about how the other faction gets more love.
Continue the hate loves, you gave them the idea for this expansion you know.
Either post on your level 120 Horde main or shut the hell up
Don't bother. They're filling the role of "I belong to Alliance and I don't have a problem with this, you're just being silly.". We kinda need him to fill out the trope list.