Your favorite PvP Mouse?

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Nvm I just bound th em to my keypad lols.

Yup I did! Playing through it now :slight_smile:

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I’ve used Razer Nagas for the past 8 years and loved them. Only ran into problems with the first one after several years of gaming. Honestly only ever run into problems with Razer on a Macbook I had for a little while. The Naga just feels great overall, lots of customization, and they are fantastic with customer support.

This year I switched to Corsair and I really like the Scimitar. It’s got some screwy bits with setting up the num pad, but I really like the weight of it and overall feel. Once I got it set up it has worked great. Only problem I have run into with the brand is their Void Pro headset, but I got it exchanged without a hitch. We will see if that’s the only way to go or if I will stay a Razer guy myself.

I’ve used Logitech brands and they always perform badly. But that’s my luck I guess.

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  1. Don’t use a wireless mouse they are all crap and bad for gaming

  2. Go to your nearest computer store and then go to the mouse section and they should have a bunch for you to see out of the case. Find the one that feels the best for you. It’s like shoes. They all look good online, but what really matters is how it feels to you and if it works well.

Personally my favorite mmo mouse is the 2014 razer naga. There are many other good mice out there though.

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My MacBook trackpad

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Im using 12 button razer naga with cable and didnt have any problem yet. for a year now.

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I have the Corsair Scimitar and have had no complaints so far with it and would recommend it to anyone.

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This is actually an outdated myth, wireless sensors/mice are actually really up to date now and have virtually insignificant delay compared to wired mice nowadays. G pro wireless is actually an extremely popular FPS mouse, honestly probably one of the best I’ve used in my entire life and only other mice that compare for that sort of thing would be a finalmouse or some of the zowie mice, but even then wireless is actually incredibly consistent and reliable and once you play wireless it’s hard to go without one.

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I’ve been using it for a few hours now and I love it!

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Sorry but there is a reason nearly all pro FPS players use wired mouses. Although in recent years the wireless mouse has advanced it will not for at least the next decade be up to par with the responsiveness of a wired mouse. Even if it it is only .001 ms faster that gives you and advantage in any game.

Not saying you can’t have ur preference. But I just can’t side with that information unless you send me a legit study showing with concrete evidence there is no difference in lag time lol

Edit: looking up the g pro and a lot of people are saying it has input lag micro stutters :confused: literally the first few searches just trying to find the ms on it

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G pro wireless is actually used by a good amount of pro fps players. It’s actually a very highly rated fps mouse, literally only competition like I said is some of the zowies of a finalmouse and some of that really just comes down to hand size and whatnot because all of those good mice have top of the line sensors. But as far as competitive differences for FPS pros you acually will have very little difference between each other and wireless isn’t a hinderence for the gpro.

Obviously old school wireless mice have noticeable input delays and issues but those are actually unnoticeable with really quality sensors nowadays and the gpro is probably as cutting edge as it gets in that regard anyways, wireless mice will only improve from there anyways.

The idea of wireless mice being awful though is literally just outdated, there used to be huge issues for sure but tech has improved. It will pretty much only get better from here on out.

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I’ve always wanted to try a wireless mouse and keyboard, but my sister in laws brother recently lost an air pod ear bud which has made me very worried that I’d lose the keyboard/mouse

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I’m sure it will get better and I’m definitely not trying to say it’s a bad mouse. More so saying it can only get AS good as a wired mouse, but not better. And it is most likely very slightly below it in relaying it’s information, even if it is only .00001 seconds.

Personally I’ve never had a problem with wired mice and have no reason to even think of using a wireless mouse, but I’m sure other people could think the opposite who have had problems with wires and would rather deal with an extremely minuscule input lag.

Perhaps the pros using it just feel like their hand is more free? I could see that. Just never had that issue myself

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It has a bluetooth connection with the wireless but it’s input delay is actually impossible for you to detect as a human, it’s actually more responsive than plenty of other top quality mice I’ve used too. It’s not like it’s a mouse people have to use but it’s just for a fact not acually a factor of input delay, the only real disadvantage of top quality wireless mice like that one is that it’s expensive and wireless mice are slightly heavier (honestly that’s where I expect improvement to go, the sensors are pretty much perfect there’s no noticeable difference in them, although the weight is also lifted by it being wireless too.

Really when looking for top quality gaming mice it actually doesn’t matter (especially for fps standards) between a good amount of the top ones besides which is actually better for your hand size. You won’t notice any different input delay between a top tier zowie, finalmouse, deathadder, gpro wireless etc, it’s just what fits in your hand better. Wired/Wireless doesn’t matter as long as the mouse is good, and honestly any delay you’d have from slight mouse lag or tug or something similar to that would pretty much even out with wireless even when using a parachute chord. Tech for mice has improved vastly and like I said eventually it’s likely that will simply become the standard. There’s actually lots of cases that responsiveness on the wireless is actually better than some of the wired ones (negligible though again for zowie, finalmouse).

People should avoid wireless mice though if it’s not a top of the line one, pretty much logitech has this area beat though since their tech for this is insane.

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You’re just saying the same thing over bud. We discussed that already and I’m saying it can only get as good as wired but not better, and will most likely be slightly worse.

I’d like to see some actual specs if you could find them though and perhaps a study showing the minimal difference such as what they did for 60 hi monitor vs 144 he monitor when they thought there was no difference for that, but as we know now there is a huge difference as the human eye is now said to see up to I think 240hz a second if trained? Something along those lines

Also want to say ahead of time the specs are most likely with the mouse right next to the receiver and not having the mouse speak with the computer through desk material like most people would have. Throwing that out there.

Edit: not trying to be rude at all btw, I just really prefer facts over what comes from word of mouth and have only ever seen poor statistics for wireless mice

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It’s 1ms delay, if I wasn’t laying in bed I could link more info on it but you’re actually free to do research on the mouse it’s responsiveness actually does beat a good amount of wired ones.

The difference for these also isn’t like the 60hz to 144hz monitors at all, the difference is actually more like if you had 143hz and 144hz (obviously 143 hz doesn’t exist), but it’s actually so absurdly miniscule.

As for the reciever with it, you are going to keep it close but I mean you literally just pit the reciever the same place you’d put your wire if your mouse was wired (not sure if that visually makes sense), but it covers the same responsiveness through a giant gaming mat.

I was also against wireless mice too but I did a ton of research on mine before I bought it (and other mice), and it’s literally nothing at all like what you’re thinking of. Old wireless mice were awful, but recent wireless tech is fantastic (logitech only I believe).

Again, it’s not at all like the monitor hz differences. You absolutely will not notice a difference and honestly it’s very likely that particular mouse is actually more responsive than what you’re using unless you’re using a finalmouse or zowie like I said then it’s pmuch the exact same.

My point isn’t even that people need to use a wireless mouse anyways, it’s just that the tech actually is so much better that the errors they used to have are actually gone.

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So I’ll be the first to say it, you bought a 12 button mouse that you love. But are using ketbinds 1-9 on keyboard. Please tell those are like cooking keybinds, hearthstones ect.

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A lot of people complain about the Naga but as a long time Naga and g600 user I have no problems with my Naga and prefer it to the Logitech. The Logitech is much bigger and just feels heavier gliding. I also like the clicky thumb buttons on the Naga versus the pushy ones on the g600.

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Don’t buy into that whole hurr durr 10 buttons on a mouse crap.
A clickable mousewheel is all you need for your party/enemy targeting needs and then maybe 1 or 2 buttons on the side for fast dispels.

I remember years ago buying some fancy a$$ gaming mouse with a billion buttons and then binding felhunter123 interrupt / grimoire123 interrupt and felhunter123 dispel to said buttons and it was 10 times more akward to use than good old F/D/R with shift/ctrl modifiers.

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There are def pros that prefer/use wireless mice in many games, however keep in mind something both of you forgot to mention. Many organizers have banned wireless input in many games, mostly because they want absolutely ZERO controversy over any sort of input issues, and have also had issues where in round robin or pool play some of the “Randos” have resorted to messing/interfering with bluetooth/wireless settings to sabotage play. Or a player purposely turning off their device and claiming foul play.

Source: Ex-Halo pro, and volunteered at quite a few MLG events and Quakecons when I was younger.

As a Naga Hex lover couple things to note.

  1. Synapse really is crap and has tons of compatibility issues with certain drivers, displays, and games. You don’t need it though for button use, just for profile settings/hotkeys.

  2. The quality between the 2013-2015 line of products and later is different but later ones aren’t complete garbo.

  3. Button mashers will notice this a lot in later editions. If you are someone who spams the next GCD button 176 times while going through your previous GCD and presses it really hard, you will notice a short lifespan on later Razer products. If you only hit it a couple times as the next GCD is about to come up and have a light touch, they’ll last you forever. This is a big reason why the feedback is so hot n cold on Razer mice. We all know those dudes who mash a key, the GCD goes off, and starts absolutely mashing the F out of the next key a billion times till it goes off.

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Yeah this is true, but CS:GO and OWL players still use the mouse and there’s no complaints with it in those cases, but yeah I definitely understand why it would have caused issues.