You'll hotfix WSG but you won't even comment on this

So me getting into an ally discord with never having met these people before and following strats is a premade?

Isn’t that akin to me queueing into a random av and just listening to one person in chat?

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That’s where you’re being purposefully obtuse. Horde must start with rose colored goggles or something.

It was bad. Really bad for pretty much every NA PVP server with ONE major outlier–Heartseeker.

If you think populations were so balanced on so many servers, what’s the reason behind massive queue times? Especially when ALLIANCE OUTNUMBER HORDE (52/48) when looking at all server types.

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P2 was a handful of weeks that ended.

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Please show your work. I am on a balanced PVP realm, as are many others. Both factions ganked. Both factions death blobbed.

Then how do you explain the instant alliance queues? ALL servers in each region are mashed into the crbg pot.

So the horde in that AV were just completely inept and couldn’t get more 1 or 2 KB a piece?

Not sure how this is blizzard’s problem.

I did. Yes there are a few premade groups running around but it’s not an efficient way to gain honor. If your premade is more than 20, it takes several attempts to get everyone in and you still have to carry 15+ pugs

In discord we can get up to 35+ people all on the same discord and usually on the first attempt. Even though we are random strangers, we are on coms and we are organized. Horde can do the exact same thing

https://wowclassicpopulation.com/

Alliance population is up to 53% and horde down slightly–probably due to queue issues.

A lot of posts where horde talked about getting deathballed were a joke. They got ganked a few times by a group and felt like it was balanced.

It wasn’t “deathballs” causing issues, it was the constant camping of every major quest hub, flight path, instance, etc that probably wasn’t even noticed by someone who wasn’t part of it, or inconvenienced by it.

gO tO rEtAiL

That happened on most servers, perpetrated by both factions. It was not a “joke”.

Much less Alliance doing PVP. Simple. Alliance tend to go PVE and not do any PVP at all, that includes BG. Server pops have little to do with it.

Tons more Horde doing BG means there are queue times and grouping issues. The fix is either for those Horde to go Alliance or Blizzard can make it that faction doesn’t matter in a BG and just allow people to fight on whatever side balances things out.

It isn’t Blizzards problem, at all. These people made a choice to play the faction that would greatly outnumber the other (we all knew this would happen.) Rather than take responsibility for their actions -and adapt to reality- they are blaming, feeling entitled, asking the world to adapt to them etc…

Or they can simply allow party queues for AV.

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Let’s be real here. If all of SPM wanted to make a premade and queue AV, they could.

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Grobbulus is actually well balanced, but this is not normal when horde outnumber ally 60/40 on PvP servers.

P2 was massively imbalanced for the majority of alliance whether you want to believe it or not. Now horde are having to pay the price on a tiny part of the game.

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Which won’t fix a single thing. It’ll just mean longer queues on the horde side and the pugs will get thrown to the wind to be snapped up by Alliance groups. The rich will get richer and the environment will get more toxic.

The real reason is cross server, and the handful of really imbalanced servers being the most populated as well. And Alliance don’t queue up as much, which has nothing to do with P2

So because less alliance tend to PVP, and alliance that chose to play on PVP servers endured PVP for a handful of weeks, the players in red shirts have to suffer in what should be an even playing field perpetually. In what you claim is a “tiny” part of the game?

PS: This may come as news to you, but BGs are the entire endgame for many players.

Finally someone who is not blaming P2 for this.

You did this to yourself. You’re asking for the world (of warcraft) to change to adapt to you and your choices. You lament, publicly and daily.

I suggest re-rolling alliance if you want what they are experiencing. The world doesn’t revolve around you. Asking it to is folly.

Or they could just allow 5 man parties to queue like before this version and after.