That is a great great point. The grind is another big aspect of this.
No. There are 0 drops in pvp
Your only acquisition is through the vendor with timegated conquest currency and the vault once a week if youre lucky. Tier cannot be purchased off the vendor with conquest and the vault can drop non tier pieces, like my conquest chest that isnt tier
Bfa gave you random drops, that went away with vendors
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And do you know what else does that for many specs in the game? Haste.
Nobody complains that they can’t play the game because they can’t get x amount of haste.
The game feels much better to play with 25% haste than it does with an additional random damage proc.
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Why should you not have to earn the best items in an MMO? That’s…part of what makes an MMO, an MMO
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Ahh ok. Gotcha.
Another part is having fully fleshed out classes without the loot. They missed that part and tried to finish the classes via loot
Gosh that’s exactly the kind of comment that makes my mind blow up.
Read before commenting, holy…
We don’t ask to be given gear, but tier pieces are INSANELY HARD to get and not because of the difficulty of the content but because of RNG, PLEASE read this
Thank you.
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At this point they are either
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Doing it on purpose.
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Just commenting to comment
The literal first part of the thread I addressed the entitlement aspect and people still think I’m in here asking for BIS
I think there aren’t a lot of working brains left on these forums or they are all determined to be as disruptive and trollish as possible.
I hope it’s the trolling because otherwise I’m just telling people who don’t want to read to read lmao
They’re supposed to be though which is what none of you want to accept. Legendaries used to fall into the same category. This is by design. Bad luck protection opens soon to help out the unlucky. Even before when you were unlucky you could only guarantee yourself two pieces you could buy with valor. Now, eventually, you can get the entire 4 set bonus through currency.
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You must accept that the state of wow is now the same as that offered by an online casino. It just makes me sad to see how those who didn’t get their jackpot can’t even deplete their own +16,17,18, because nobody gets in the queue and it turns into a sad and desolate place, while the others are happy doing his 20+
I wouldn’t care if it was not as impactful, but 4/4 tier sets literally makes a Guardian Druid do 14k dps overall in a dungeon without ever dying
Compared to a damn 0/4 Guardian who will do at most 5-6k and will have much more difficulties.
The differential is too insane to be that RNG to get. Random LFR players that don’t care about anything and play once a week for 1 hour can already be at 4/4 where as me playing 8-12 hours a day for 30 days gets me 2/4 even with 6 Great Vault chances every week and a Full clear of the raid every week, even with at least 1 chance on alts.
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Yeah, the time gating is rediculous.
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No one is forcing you to play that much. And lfr at this point only offers 2/4. No need for hyperbole. If you are harming yourself through playing so much then stop doing it. It’s just a game. If you are getting this upset over how the game has always been you should probably take a step back.
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So you believe it’s acceptable to clear and entire raid for tier & you have to vendor all the tier tokens because all those classes on the token already have it? It’s literally a waste of every other player’s time in that case. Is it really suppose to be that tough or more aptly put, asinine?
So you think 90 days of waiting for 4 piece is acceptable when others are literally getting their entire 4 pc in one raid night?
I’m all for bad luck protection but there is no world where having to wait that long to have access to something that is 30-50% of your damage or bonuses that fix your tank threat is acceptable under those circumstances.
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When I say LFR players I mean casual players that do maybe 1 key a week and maybe LFR.
This with luck can get you 4/4.
I want to play this much because I like the game, but the stupid system Blizzard always adds like the Time-Gated Catalyst that’s also Time-gated it just a proof of that.
Catalyst should’ve been there since week one. AGAIN THIS IS NOT GIVING PIECES TO PLAYERS. You EARNED those pieces, you farmed for those pieces, the ONLY THING the Catalyst gives you is literally just transfering those earned pieces to Tier pieces. It,s the ONLY thing, you worked hard for those pieces, you managed to get good pieces you want to transfer to Tier pieces, the catalyst is there once a week for that.
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What you guys aren’t realizing is that the eventual likelihood of this complaining isn’t that tier will be made easier to get. They’ll remove it. Like they did the last time mythic+ players whined about tier. It didn’t exist at all in bfa and most of shadowlands. When it’s removed again you will all only have yourselves to blame.
This doesn’t answer what bosses you killed? all 5 tier? how many times each?
That’s untrue, because Tier Sets was something the whole playerbase wanted since the end of Legion when they removed it. They will in this case find a better way to make them obtainable.
Do it right or get rid of it I’ll just play another game .
You are talking about unhealthy when what’s really unhealthy is supporting everything blizz does even if it’s half baked because “they might take it away”
You are literally their ideal customer
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I was on the forums the entirety of legion. Do you think that blizz pulled removing tier out of thin air? Or removing tf? Or changing how loot works? Or making all content have a mythic+ type vault from it? Did a little birdie whisper suggestions into their ears?