This seems like a reasonable approach.
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What is it you folks love to say?
Oh right, if you want bonuses for Alliance to sign up for PvP, go to retail, where it also hasn’t fixed it.
Bro I’m so upset lol… Last night I was 0 - 11 and today I went 1 - 9 so far. I don’t even have words how bad the win/loss ratio is atm.
For whatever reason Alliance just want to give up after a objective don’t go in our favor. I hope this mentality stops since even during a losing game I was able to ninja cap 4 bases in AB alone.
It’s light weight discouraging to even go in atm so I hope mid season 1 or season 2 things get better.
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This is a suggestion to fix the horde queues. If you don’t like it, I’m completely fine with letting what’s going on…continue unchanged 
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Yea, it’s almost like… oh idk… pvp centric people gravitate towards horde? and it really has nothing to do with racials.
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Oh yea RBGs I forgot about them. Lol I’ve been in the mindset of TBC I forgot all about that. So yea it shouldn’t be too big of an issue for them to implement.
The only problem is that I know lots of allince still don’t like the idea. The normal quote I get is “That would give no incentive to play allince. All x horde players would switch back making us smaller.”
The issue with the pvp issue is that no matter what change is made the other side will have some issue with it.
I’m more on the side of if it reduces que times then everyone wins. But I do also play horde. Unfortunately servers and faction imbalance will be a thing. I’m on an allince dominant server and have no issue with it…but it’s also pve.
This quote would have an ounce of meaning if it wasn’t the complete opposite in WotLK.
Racials mean next to nothing in retail now (hell for a long time humans had the best PvP racial) and still horde outnumbers alliance in pvp.
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All you have to do is look at history and realize the historic numbers are lowballing the density of fotm rerollers for the classic versions.
Not for cata but every other expansions that’s probably about true.
Your technicalities are correct. It’s probably something more like 10-12 years of being the dominant pvp faction.
Does that change my point in the slightest?
Winning a semantic point doesn’t make your argument correct. It just shows how petty you are. Congratulations.
Horde has the reputation of being the bigger pvp faction, and has for a long time. This draws a lot of people to pvp on horde, and causes the queue imbalances. During TBC they also have strong racials.
Alliance has the stronger racials (arguably) in WotLK, and we’ll see then if that fixes the problem. But unless your argument is that the racials should be revamped to that state now… it does nothing to solve the core argument to bring that up.
It just gets me to type 10-12 years instead of 15. Nothing of substance has changed.
Retail has had greatly increased bonuses for Alliance to PvP for years, and even with Horde racials nerfed and Alliance having their precious Human racial buffed, it hasn’t changed things.
Alliance players just don’t enjoy PvP. And that’s fine. Yet you expect Horde players to overfill your faction and do the PvPing for you. I’m not interested in playing as Alliance, my friends are definitely not interested. All I want is to be able to play the character I’ve already sunk hundreds of hours into, and get into a few BGs over the course of an evening. Yet that’s somehow a slight against you.
People weigh the advantages and choose accordingly. Historically the stronger racials have been horde, thus a massive amount of people would choose horde. Whenever racials were in alliance favor, the population shifts massively the other way.
Enjoy your queues.
If it was true in the past, it hasn’t been true for a long time.
Just watch WotLK. It’ll get to such a stupid level of hindsight where people will try to make the case that alliance were overwhelmingly favored in Vanilla Classic and other expansions they weren’t using the fotm rerolls in WotLK as a springboard.
There already is one. It is the best racial in the history of arena pvp, every man for himself, and it is coming our way come wotlk. Alliance was the clear dominant pvp faction for a solid 3 expansions because of that racial. and what do ya know, faction changes also came with wotlk.
You’re talking about that one time period, I’m talking about recent years.
If it was a thing in the past, people haven’t flocked to alliance racials in years. Even when they are currently better in both pve and pvp on live.
Thanks for reminding me. Yeah the fotm rerolls are gonna be insane.
I don’t care what happens in retail. No one plays it. Or no one PvPs in it.
A lot of people pvp in retail recently, SL has revived it
I heard SL is a wasteland of r1 glads at 1900-2200 rating carrying people while 90% of the player base can’t exceed 1700 rating. Like all carries going on and no one else even playing. It sounds horrible.
https://luduslabs.org/sotl
Like what is this lol?