Ok sure. I will quit premading so I can spend 3x as much time to get the same amount of honor because you got angry.
Play alliance. You encounter far fewer premades than horde, I would imagine. Pugging as alliance is very bad for mental health, as you generally have 3 afk players and 5 that wont leave stables just trying to soak up hks. This causes any random player that wants to play with a full team to search out people on their server. Dont need to even mention alterac valley
The premades I tried to roll with were on par with loud COD kids with anger issues. Who the hell wants to listen to that crap? I don’t.
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People make premades to increase their win rate. Increasing win rate and speed of wins = more HPH.
On many realms the only way to get above rank 10 without spending your entire day queuing for AV is to premade WSG/AB. Not only that, but instead of spending hours queuing alone, you get to queue on voice chat with others. Most of us like to hang with each other.
Lastly, many of us premade to have a CHANCE against other premades. The super sweaty ones may dodge, but most premades will take games vs each other. They fight it out to the end and honestly they’re the most fun games. Stomping pugs is quick, decent honor, but the fun ones are when you play a premade of similar skill and end up in a knock out drag out brawl to the end that you win by 10 supplies.
You see it though a lens of a pug getting stomped every game. Try premading. It’s pretty fun.
Find better people to premade with.
Right; but why isn’t every game like this, when every game could be like this?
Neither team is enjoying pug v pre, so why continue to matchmake instances between them?
People say “because I deserve more honor for premading, because we’re playing the game more competitively;” but if it’s found that there are more premade teams queueing than solo players, then premade queues will be substantially shorter – not to mention that high rank players are worth more honor when killed than lower ones.
You’re still going to come out on top – you’re just not going to be on top because you beat a bunch of pushover teams who had no chance against you as a result of your comp, gear, and coms.
Every game you play will be a greater challenge. Battlegrounds will be fairer and more engaging. Nobody’s losing out.
Why can’t we agree to that?
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SPERG SPERG SPERG is it hurting you that you cant win 100% of the games?
You would need to then create higher tier awards for the premade v premade games. If it was just for fun there would be some that play, but it would die out in favor of pug games that would likely go quicker. That would involve a lot of major changes with the pvp system and gearing. Theres tons of issues around overhauling the PvP system.
No, you wouldn’t.
Because what you’re playing is a fair game, just like the pug v pug.
Do premades have to cap the flag 6 times instead of 3? acquire 4000 resources?
no.
Interesting assessment, but entirely baseless.
no there’s not…there’s issues in ur mind because for some reason you think premade players deserve a higher tier reward…LOL @ that
your opinion (KEYWORD: OPINION) makes alot of sense tho…lets cater to the small amount of 15 hr a day sweaty bbq sauce nerds and let the majority get GY camped…humans are such prideful and conceited creatures…lets use 0 logic and only promote ideas that directly benefit me
just dont let raids queue for pvp…simple as that…pvp FIXED…limiting to 5 player groups will still be a pain but not nearly as bad and it will probably keep u sissies from whining uncontrollably
i honestly dont care if i have a 0% winrate vs pugs…gettin stomped as a pug on a team full of ppl below rank 10 vs a r10+ premade on voice was surely blizzard’s intent for classic PVP
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If that was all they did people would just make 2 groups of 5 and queue at the same time.
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probably…i’m sure the nerds would find a way to exploit it
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LMFAO… yes, I lol’d in RL
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You should have chosen a job that you cant work from home in. That way, you can join the sweat and rank to 10 easy. Or, you can understand not everything is achievable by just wanting it real bad and tapping your heels 3 times while saying “there’s no gear like PVP gear”
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No, they would need to create better rewards for more difficult wins, or else people won’t participate in the 10/ 15 man brackets. Like an above poster said, it would then just be premades broke down into smaller groups.
Then that’s when it gets really broken, because, assuming the A/H faction difference is the same, Allies would be able to split their premades into however many groups it takes to get into the pug distinctions, then queue at the exact same time to make full premades or close to them vs pugs.
Horde could likely do the same with a lot more effort for less consistent success, but the end result would be the forums way more full of people screeching about how unfair it is.
You don’t think this through very far. You just look at it like everyone is gonna play by the rules and not try and push limits. You could say ‘Well blizzard could do this or that to combat it’… they’re not.
So the choice is massive changes to core aspects of PvP, ranking and gearing to create a new system that has some semblance of fairness, or leave well alone an issue that isn’t really an issue if the players just formed their own damn premades.
I’ll tell you which one is gonna happen if you want spoilers
Blizzard’s intent was to give us Classic “Warts and all”. The ranking system is one of those warts. I’m not a big fan of it myself, but I’ll defend it to the end because it’s the way it was, just with more concentrated sweatiness
But isn’t Horde the most hardcore, best in the world pvp faction?
Would you be here complaining if you were winning more than losing?
Only thing Blizzard will do by changing premades is tell us all just how trash Horde really is.
Just like they dumbed down AV into oblivion because Horde could barely win.
You picked the wrong faction now get rekted.
OK so youre saying a premade alliance team ranked 10-13 with flasks on, buffs and consumes stomping a completely random horde team consisting of sargeants wearing blues and maybe like 1 or 2 higher ranked players is a totally fair match-up and the horde is just inferior for losing in that situation, is that what youre saying? cuz that is what happens in bg’s 90% of the time, having grinded to rank 14 solo ive been there to see it happen 90% of the time. The phase 2 salt is so obvious in your tone
well…yes.
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flasks lol
so then how come horde premades have a higher win rate over alliance premades and horde pugs over alliance pugs? when the odds aren’t stacked in your favor your side usually gives up. this is a fact
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hope you got a source for that statistics based statement cause otherwise its just complete nonsense