except i clearly typed out while forming a group in my first sentence. twice. so yeah. it’s not my fault you misconstrue something that clearly talks about forming a group despite it saying so twice.
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well thats clearly what happened and you’re right it really does not matter, i am guilty myself of making a bigger deal about something that I really meant to.
makes no difference, and i have laid out, with quoting both it isnt clear which sentence you were responding too, when you were only responding to the first one, its a failure of the quote system which did not help.
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I’ve corrected myself on here a few times. I’m able to do that.
This all started because someone yet again made a general statement about LFD killing community and I just wanted to try and clear up that LFD by itself was never tested in a closed community, and that CRZ is really what caused people to behave irresponsibly.
But, ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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saying LFD on this forum is akin to using bad words, and honestly I stop bothering to put in my two cents about things that ‘killed’ anything WoW related,lol.
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I get that. I just think that people regurgitate statements without knowing all the facts. It happens all the time. Fake news and all that. So I try to give a little more insight into something, but people believe what they want to believe.
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NO guild banks.
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it does matter. he can’t quote part of a sentence and say that he’s taking my statement in context.
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That is the gist of what they said yes. Only connection would be the sub.
I would think so. After classic they will have a blue print.
Not really with a combined sub. Players may leave classic for the TBC servers but WoW would still retain the subs. Blizz won’t lose anything. As far as players choosing to play another game? That is player choice. As much as everyone wants to point a finger at “what killed wow”. The truth is it has always been player choice. Changes may influence that choice but so does other games that come out on the market. I mean that’s basically saying no other games should be released after classic because people may go play them.
Honestly this is a good idea. The gold sink aspect is very interesting. So if someone quits. The guild has to come up with another 2k. This would cause guilds to be very selective in who becomes quartermaster. I like the idea myself. The biggest thing is the traceability the in game logs provide.
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You mean the alt brigades creating repeat topics without cease to show “the community uproar” through subversion to persuade other users to bandwagon the “cause” because it’s what “everyone” is doing? Yea. Lol.
Edit to add: Anyone else noticed the trend of how those topics seem to “cool off” right around the time certain regular avatars seem to be absent from the forums? Maybe my tin foil hat is too tight again…
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Can’t speak for others but I don’t have more than this one singular character on the US side.
I am actually an EU side player from Finland.
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Im going to catch some heat for this but here it goes.
Of everything that’s been discussed at an in-depth lengthy level I am so surprised I have not seen any continuous discussion on wanting to change the honor system. I don’t think I’ve seen any post about it for that matter.
Back to guild banks.
Everyone’s experience to GB alts in Vanilla was different. Some had great, some had terrible and quite a few ,me, had none at all.
With in recent regards to how they changed loot trading, I could see them adding guild banks in under the same bias. These two systems, should they even put in GBs, would almost exclusively be delegated and regulated by and for the players.
They don’t want to deal with tickets for misgiving or wrongly rolling on an item right? Well how many times has that been an issue? And take that and now ask yourself how many times have you heard of someone running off with all the guild mats on their alt? Cheating other members of the guild? Screwing with the log? GBA who where there the last week for the past 23 weeks and now are no where to be seen?
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Good show! I don’t speak for others either but I do know what my eyes have seen since I started posting here.
Cool stuff. I’m from Michigan, USA. Glad to make your acquaintance.
That’s the thing though. Every bnet account for wow has a max of 50 avatars for the forums. I myself have 1 account that is close to 50. Last time I played I deleted a couple go no where projects. Lol.
I also have 3 other accounts that probably total maybe 15 avatars.
As one person. If I so choose to. I could light some of these topics up. This is being done by others here. This system is also used to troll without end.
The way I see it. Both of those fly in the face of solid communication. On one hand it can/will influence bandwagoners. Skewing communication. On the other trolling is just muddying the waters. Some laughs? Sure. Needed for community? To a degree but not an extreme one.
That is the other thing. Community. That was one of the rallying cries for classic in stark contrast to today’s lobby based games. The alt brigading makes the forums feel sharded. Lol. That’s funny but with the exception of the regulars (which there’s only a handful of) we basically have randoms in and out. Non stop. If Classic is about community why not our forums as well?
Okay so I noticed that there was a lengthy back and forth about the LFD implementation of 3.3. And rather or not that it was, could be, or perhaps not at all responsible for damaging community. Or as imo dealing a deathblow like it did on my server coilfang.
Apologies. I didn’t realize that one needs to take into account the cross realm component of the 3.3 random dungeon finder.
So after consideration, Ill say that the random dungeon finder, imo, is the single greatest community killer overall, because of the fact it automates an important community bolstering aspect. That being taking time of seeking out of worthy adventuring companions.
And in addition it further automates the process of being in a dangerous open persistent world via the teleporting of the group at the same time inside of a instance on the other side of the world. From a single server or all of the wow its a big community killer imo.
If one is in the camp of the random dungeon finder being an overall negative, then I guess whats mostly debatable is exactly what percentage of which component of the rdf is most responsible for said community killage.
Back on topic,
I actually hadn’t thought of the quartermaster purchasable rank being a one time purchase. I think that would make the decision of who assumes the role of quartermaster even more significant in an mmorpg.
The GM and officers would maybe even have to conduct an election or something to ensure all agree that the guild member(s) being considered for quartermaster are as trustworthy as possible otherwise the guild would face another 2000 gold or more sink.
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Cool never been to Michigan myself closest I’ve been would be Chicago I suppose.
Anyway about using multiple avatars to pose as more than one people is truly sad. I think it would be best if Blizzard just made so that you have to select one avatar to post with and that would be it.
Obviously some people would still post from multiple accounts but at least it would be significantly more work to continue doing so.
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I don’t think this idea is actually a bad one and I would not have minded to see something like it in Vanilla.
But that is besides the point, it was not in Vanilla and we should not go about making gameplay changes and thus I cannot support it.
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Use that tin foil to fry some bacon.
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Lol.
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So when do we form a guild?
I’m on the fence whether I want to run a guild or just be an active/productive member of a guild. I’m being “persuaded” to take on more management responsibilities at work and I’m not sure I’ll have the time to be an effective proper leader in both areas. I can be an effective guildy though. Co-management could be doable though. I do have a lot of ideas and some strong ideals of what community should be.
I could set up micromanagement systems but I hate that. While sometimes a definite needed evil. Too much of it takes away from what I feel a leader should be. Which is the person out front saying “Follow me. Let’s go get em” not standing back saying “go get em guys”. Leader is the one out in front. All for one and one for all.
I am intending on rolling EST pvp server horde side though.
Wish blizz would release server details so we can really organize like minded people to the same realms. Even enemies. They are a big part of community.
I for one don’t want to roll a completely lop sided pvp server. That’s going to be a drag…
This. I want to play a WoW I can eventually say “I’m pretty good” with, and ALWAYS have that character non-obsolete. I probably wouldn’t take so many breaks if they weren’t always forcing me through a new expansion I don’t really like. I seem to just barely keep up with the treadmill nowadays, the second I feel boss they drop another xpac or patch or my specs suddenly garbage so I need an alt. So I’m looking forward to that no longer being a thing, and if it is, there’s just no hope for this game. #NoChanges