Uh wasn’t BFA a Horde story?
Makes sense 
I didn’t put either of them in power. The whole point is writing needs to get better. So we have our own quests to do from our own NPCs and so do you.
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Warhammer was inspired by LOTR. Though something being “as big as” something else is irrelevant to the request.
As have orc, as have undead beings, as have bad elves and minotaur’s are from Greek mythology. None of the races in WoW are amazingly unique tbf. Maybe Vulpera and Dractyhr?
They are more common as enemy mobs, again though I am not addressing playable/nonplayable or MMO/not MMO. My point is your comment about humans, elves, dwarves being used up tropes is just as applicable to the horde races. simple as.
Entire series of games where you play as a skeleton, dark souls games you are essentially undead the whole time.
That god awful Achilles game had a dope playable minotaur in it.
This is a valid opinion, however it doesn’t invalidate that the horde races are just as troped out as alliance are in fantasy games. I am happy you can play a minotaur though. Your premise would be better if it was
“how many games can I play a minotaur like thing in?” instead of blanket statements before seemingly moving goal posts down to what amounts to your, valid, opinion.
No it wasn’t. If anything bfa was an anti Horde story made by a Sylvanas hating boomer still salty Metzen killed Garrosh.
Last I checked, war is not an excuse for genocide.
No. I like the spikes. Just not the random metal crap that the Goblins put in the roads.
I like it’s aesthetic. I liked old Org better though.
Imagine if a small indie company like bliz could actually use the reputation bars that are ever expanding on your character screen to actually let you choose who you would like to be allied with.
We had our own story but it was the set up for ruin. Through the story we lose every footing and then eventually the war. It was just another villain bat story. It’s why we now have to do quests for the Alliance.
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So it wasn’t a horde story because, you don’t agree with it because they killed off your favorite leader?
Or just let players choose race, starting rep BASED on race chosen(I.E. Horde races start no higher then neutral with alliance ones and vice versa), but allow them to act separate from the factions.
What happened in Zuldazar pales in comparison to what happened to Teldrassil. Yet you make excuses for one while refusing to move past the other. The factions were at war. Zuldazar was a legitimate military target. Unlike Teldrassil, the city wasn’t burned to the ground with every civilian dead. War is terrible. Faction wars were stupid. It’s time to move on.
Teldrassil was only in comparison to what Arthas did to Silvermoon it was that bad. But we weren’t even really allied with the Zandalari when Zandalar was attacked. And it was another huge L for the Horde and for Trolls. The story just needs to not be this stuff. BFA shouldn’t have been that. Our side (Horde side) should have been a Troll expac that moved into old gods. The Alliance side the Kul’tiran stuff moved into old gods. The faction war felt forced and out of place.
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There was a ceasefire.
Repeat that. CEASE. FIRE.
It in fact was not war and sylvanas broke the ceasefire by committing genocide.
Also, NOTHING excuses genocide. War or not. Are you okay?
My take on BfA was that it was deep dive into faction conflict intended to satisfy the most blood-thirsty among us, and leave us sated on faction conflict once-and-for-all. Blizz knew when they launched BfA (my guess) that they wanted to move on, but figured they’d give us one more to make sure we were over it and ready to move on with them. Most of us are, but a few still can’t let go.
Well actually Genn was the first to break the ceasefire. Not that it excuses was Sylvanas did after.
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Most reasonable players knew that even back in Vanilla/BC/Wrath, but we were happy with the “cold war” style of those times. The thing is we kept going into faction conflict possibly because Blizzard listened to the “Warcraft is Alliance Vs. Horde” crowd a bit too much. Yeah, WARCRAFT as in the RTS might have been that, especially the 1st 2, but WORLD of WARCRFT is not WARCRAFT just the WORLD it takes place in. It is times like this I wish WoW was called Adventures in Azeroth or something, but that does not have the recognition that Warcraft had.
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It just felt like they decided last minute to force it in. They do the Teldrassil thing and then ignore it even for the longest time.
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I think Genn & Sylvanas were intended to represent those not ready to let go, and their actions were intended to help the rest of us recognize this was not a helpful attitude.
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Probably, but then they fell off of the deep end with the lore. Or jumped the shark.