So, it’s fine for them to waste my time, but not for them to get their time wasted because of their own actions?
Most of those people waited a lot longer than 10 minutes. They probably had to get up to do something and didn’t get back in time. If you don’t accept your queue, you don’t get a debuff.
if thats how you want to phrase yes its fine imho
I can’t say I agree or even understand your mentality why it’s fine for Person A to waste Person B’s time, instead of Person B wasting their own time with their inability to plan ahead, but whatever.
If the average wait time is 8-10 minutes and you get a dungeon pop in 10 minutes, then yeah, they probably waited about 10 minutes.
Making ME wait 15-20 minutes because of their inability to have their crap together is stupid. Now, if I was REALLY sent to the front of the queue like the game claims, then there wouldn’t be a problem, but…
“Average wait time” does not mean what you think it means.
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On average, the average wait times appear to be mostly correct until the game gets biased against you because you did too many dungeons.
The first couple dungeons you Q for, the average is usually fairly accurate until you’ve done like 5 or so.
Me planning around someone knocking on my door like Dr. Strange peering into futures.
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I haven’t, but I have seen it say 5 minutes average wait time, then pop around that time, a single dps miss the queue, and then wait around for another 40 minutes without another pop
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How often does that actually happen though?
vs how many times people duck out of pops?
Unless you got Grand Central Station going on with your front door or something.
i don’t think you understand. op is saying you should only queue for a dungeon if you are 100% certain you will be able to remain motionless in front of the pc every second until the queue pops.
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I can queue for a dungeon as a tank and see a “<1 minute” wait time, or as a dps and see “15 minutes”.
That’s because a tank usually gets a dungeon in less than 10 seconds.
If you see 15 minutes as a DPS, then it will probably take you 10-20.
That “average wait time” is based on your current role(s) that you have selected, obviously.
Blizzard should just add a “Go anyway and fill later” option when it’s just 1 DPS holding it up.
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I’ve complained about this multiple times. They don’t care.
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Pretty sure they already do this for raids.
Given how there’s almost always many DPS waiting, it’d take like a split second to auto-fill with a new DPS. I’d say that even if 2 DPS dip, still send the tank, healer, and remaining DPS to the dungeon and auto-fill. Chances are, the new recruits would be in the group before you even finish the loading screen.
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You seem to think that the same four players a “returned to the front of the queue” together, but everyone queued individually, so there are no rules that the algorithm must keep those players together. Nor should there be (which seems to be your proposal)… DPS are a dime a dozen so they are low priority, while tanks and heals are high priority because they are almost always in-demand to fill an available queue.
Since you can’t see by character-name & server “the tank and healer I was grouped with,” you’re just projecting how you think it works with no facts to back that up. There’s no guarantee that the tank and healer you “had with you” actually even stayed in the queue and didn’t decide to to leave queue to run with a group of friends, do something else in game like a solo Delve, or just take a break and eat lunch–you have no indication of what the others did after the queue failed because one didn’t accept.
Everyone is in their own queue, the is no grouping of individuals that then stick together if someone was afk to handle a call at the door or the phone or w/e real-life reason they weren’t present when the queue popped. You do not get to “keep your group of 4” if one person fails to click in. The one person who fails to click in has to re-queue and that’s enough punishment… this vindictive idea that they should get a 30m debuff because their dog pooped all over the floor and they had to step away or an elderly parent hurt themselves and they needed to step away to help… just no. What type of person wants to punish others for situations that could be beyond the control of those they’re targeting for punishment?
If you don’t like long queues, then play a tank or healer (which means any class that can do that role and not a warlock). Or better yet, skip the queue and play with … FRIENDS… I know, revolutionary, right? 
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did you try queueing as a tank or a healer?
You can use simple deductive logic to envision what’s happening.
A tank and a heal are next in line, and the first 3 DPS in the queue are chosen for a group.
One DPS doesn’t click.
That same Tank and Heal are still in the Q and are immediately chosen for the next group. The idea that they leave the queue is kinda stupid, I doubt this happens very often, certainly not the frequency I see this happening, but we can go ahead and say maybe 1 in 10 times that happens.
Anyhow, the game now chooses 3 more DPS.
It SHOULD take the #1 and #2 DPS in the waiting list.
But…
It doesn’t.
For some reason, it’s skipping past at least 1 of the 2 people next-in-line.
That’s an objective fact.
If you got a dungeon pop as a DPS, that means you were either #1, #2, or #3 in the waiting list. When one of the DPS dips out, that means you are now #1 or #2 next-in-line.
The ONLY way that you could possibly NOT get the next dungeon run, is if the game passed over you, or that 1 in 10 chance the tank/heal decided to say ‘screw it’ because they waited 10 seconds and a DPS dipped, lol. But even if that DID happen, then you simply get sent with the next Tank/Heal that Qs up.
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I think it’s naïve to think there’s a singular queue for all of The Americas Servers, or you have no clue bout mutl-threading software design. Yet your description of being #1 or #2 in a singular queue suggests that you don’t have a clue. Come back after you take an advanced software design class and argue again.
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