Umm, it’s easy to show you’re not okay with it because it’s a sub based game… Unsub…
Who would have thunk it.
ZM is easy mode and 1 of the least grindy zones they have added in a long time.
Don’t want to do it, fine don’t do it. No one is forcing anyone to but don’t come complain when people put in the work and are rewarded.
To many participation Andies around here
By golly gee if i would of onlllyyyyy thought of that.
Most ppl who quit so do so without a peep. My guess as to why this thread is so slanted one way and arena participation so low.
No ones asking for free arena rating homeboy just asking for a level and fair playing field and LESS barriers to entry.
If I can’t upgrade the belt through PvP, and have to PvE to upgrade it, what is it called?
But you DON’T need it so no, you are not forced. It isn’t required.
It’s called an MMO, and there are many facets to the game. Not just pvp.
Sorry to tell you but you’ve pmuch always had to pve to min/max pvp.
oh no you might have to play the video game 
what’s new
Why is it timegated?
Why can’t you sit down and farm rep for 8 hours and be done?
having to do a little pve to get little advanatges in pvp is also part of this game from the very beginning. u can play with one 265 item if its too much for u it wont make 100 rating difference. but ye in the very beginning u actually had to do a lot of pve do be competitive in pvp.
just jumping in to agree, no one cares OP.
ZM is a terrible zone with terrible systems designed into it. The mandatory campaign that was drip fed like chinese water torture was abysmal. The zone is still being dripped on players foreheads for tier upgrades.
They took away flying literally 1 patch after restoring it to artificially lengthen content life, and they did it in such amateur way that after finishing that I still don’t have flying after going through my blizzard mandated re-education campaign 4 times.
No one cares about deluded yes man who want to simp for decades outdated bad content.
It makes them really mad when you point out that this patch was advertised with ZM not being tied to player power when it absolutely was HAHAHAHHAHAHA.
I’m actually so smug right now knowing that people are incapable of digging themselves out the design echo chamber they created.
imagine being such a beta male that you report my post calling you a troll to be taken down
wow
just unsub dude. if the current “grind” is too much for u wow is just not ur game and will never be again.
Just make decent content instead of relying on marketing, astroturfing and complacency to carry a dated product.
But zm is decent and the grind is no where close to what it was so they did somewhat listen.
It’s really horrid and mandatory via tier sets and a 2nd legendary to compete in any content that isn’t just a cheese cakewalk.
How quests and open worlds are done in the ENTIRE mmo industry are something from the dark ages. I did this on this project, I can whip up something similar here plus it’d be way easier hurhur. Also I don’t want to innovate because I’m not properly compensated and if I make a modern system, I’ll inadvertently code myself out of a job.
Feel like a bunch of attention seeking theater kids and people who play the guitar at campfires got hold the reigns and tried to make players smell their post taco bell creations.
Yeah, mmos what were they thinking.
Sounds like mmos ain’t your thing. Maybe try fps games.
Are you serious, I want an actual digital world, not a D tier story on rail and a massively stagnate dated world design that hasn’t changed in decades.
Sorry I want to actually see the improvements we’ve made in tech put to use in a digital world instead of publishers being run as a job placement program by marketing profit milkers. Anyone who doesn’t understand the end game of mmos and digital worlds are just a liability.
unsub my dude