XP From Dungeons

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Unfortunately XP penalties are imposed for grouping, even with players of your own level.

The XP slowdown was obviously done in anticipation of the heavily advertised Allied Races, the unlocking of which requires playing old content and the playing of which requires leveling through old content.

Blizzard’s continuing refusal to merge servers and its preference for CRZ “matching” means that actual WoW communities will never again be what they once were.

You can’t guild or trade with transient players; power leveling is dead; dungeons are unrewarding and take far too long; grouping is penalized.

What has happened is that people are not bothering to level alts. They have quickly found that playing at max level is an endless and unfun, unrewarding grind.

Servers continue to be ghost towns; guild rosters are dark; friends lists are dark and yet, there hasn’t been a single effort to respond to any of these complaints.

The upcoming “level boost” in 8.1 is a joke; for the first 40 levels the level cap actually is raised! Then, gradually reduced until at level 60 or so, you receive the benefit of the 40% Xp cap reduction until about level 75-80ish. Then the XP cap gradually rises again.

What was needed was a scale/leveling toggle (yes it can be done, see FF14, SWTOR or GW2); OR raised XP rewards as well, not only for questing but for every other in-game activity for which experience is rewarded.

I do not have high hopes, but I still have some hope that someday, this game will be fun again.

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4568

I don’t know if it will ever be as fun as it was; One can only hope.

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4569

Too bad the new XP reductions aren’t much at all.

You would think, with the eye catching percentages: “up to 40%!” , “almost 90k in reduced XP!”, that we would have something to be excited about. Unfortunately, it’s a bandaid over a canyon.

While, yes, there are concrete reductions, the mob HP , and our overall relative power remains the same (heirlooms remains untouched). Leveling time will decrease, but that really isn’t the problem here. There is still a lack of synergy in the leveling problem. What use is it to fix a broken arm, if the rest of the limbs are crushed?

By analytic measures, 8.1 changes affect leveling time (a small percentage overall), however the main metric that is not being affected is power progression relativity. It’s still static, with gear being almost meaningless. I tested it out on the PTR. Still the same drudge, and Draenor, still is overtuned and one of the worst of the lots…if you don’t have flying.

I don’t have a sub, and squeezing in a quick post before this ‘posting bug’ is fixed.

When I’m lurking about, always glad to see velara, dumble and the gang keeping the torch lit.

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4570

Agree with your post and would give it a “like” but I have used up my ration for today. Bottom line: leveling sucks

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4571

Yeah they’re not even close in % of what we lost and like you said WoD mobs still hit like Mack Trucks, LOL.

Good to hear from you Sars, We are trying to keep the torch lit but little by little others are leaving……… Sad to see the game going this way.

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4572

It’s going this way because they gave up on trying to make quality and just kept bringing in recycled content then made it even more boring. Long shelf life but it’s frankly not worth dropping my money on anymore they ignored feedback and continue to make it more and more lackluster and unexciting.

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4573

9 Months and still going!

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4574

I will never let this post die. I was excited for the reductions,but then was like hey they still have a long ways to go to make up for what was lost. I miss what this game was. This patch is like if someone broke your leg,but then gave you a lollipop like everything is suppose to be alright now. Blizzard is acting like those sour patch kid commercials,but the sweet is not nearly enough to make up for the sour.

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4575

Sub runs out in a few days, keep this alive y’all.

I will see what people are saying about the supposed 8.1 xp changes but I probably won’t like it unless it’s completely reverted. There was 0 reason for the change. Until I can relax and have fun leveling alts again this game is no longer for me

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4576

I won’t let it die until at least when this sub Expires: 3/13/2019 3:06 AM that is unless Blizzard decides to stop the thread.

If they revert the changes then I will stay and may reopen the account that Expired: 6/8/2018 2:29 PM; But we will see what happens.

Best of luck to you; Take care; Maybe we’ll see each other in another game! :smiley:

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I feel the same way about 8.1 but unfortunately they aren’t reverting unless they change what they plan for 8.1 which is highly doubtful (I’ve played the ptr).

I’m already getting immersed into another game not associated with Activision/Blizzard and unless they change and revert things I will NEVER play another game from this company again.

There was no reason for us players that loved this way of leveling for them to have changed it in the first place; If some players wanted more engaging content then let them not equip heirlooms.

The only reason I can see as to why it was changed was to increase revenue; How’s it working for you Blizz? Not too good from what the information I’m getting.

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4578

I am reminded of the old adage " a bird in the hand…" We are that bird, but Blizzard still evidently thinks they’ll do better in the bush…

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I’ll never let it die either; Sure was “FUN” when we could level as we pleased that is until corporate greed stepped in.

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4580

Yep; Blizzard’s developers are like the old mule we had on the farm years ago when we would put blinders on him so all he did was look straight ahead.

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4581

Rolling through the dungeons yet I keep hitting speed bump after speed bump; Revert the change please!

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4582

I keep hearing complaints, about leveling. I am not seeing it, although I admit I do not do so in dungeons. Just questing and I am leveling fine, and I and all of my fellow players I run quests with. We are still quite happy with the way things are going.

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they lost touch with their true player base.

No matter what without players there is no game

When players were happy and something wasn’t broken why Fix it? I keep asking myself what they hoped to gain.

Perhaps they honestly came to believe the skinnerian box would work.

Human are not pigeons or rats. Because of that darn ability to think, to choose to have agency.

They no longer seem to think like gamers, but like manipulators who just assume that one size fits all and any one of their pawns will react like other will react within paramaters.

I suppose i"m in the process of graving over something lost.

Past denial, it has changed
past anger, all used up
past bargaining, no one open to that
past everything except not quite at acceptance.

WOW has been a part of my life since 2004, my children played with me for many many happy times.

Old friends have moved on and I don’t even know where they went.

These days I find myself lonely in the game. A few, a very few friends in the game, and they are going the same road I"m on.

I suppose it is true

no king lives forever.

They forgot to mention the ones who have to attend the funeral and watch the interment or the cremation.

Sorry folks, guess i’m getting maudlin, but I miss the old bliz and games made by gamers for gamers.

Flying was a very special thing to me

Leveling fast and great heirlooms that I worked hard to obtain when they were harder to get and enjoyed them.

Mostly I miss having a world where I directed my character and did things I wanted and achieved meaningful things and felt myself become more powerful, not I feel like a old man becoming weaker each year, and the old joy is hard to find.

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They’re addicted to gambling. They’re gambling that the people who stay and play more hours from this will make up for the people who left over it. That’s how they calculate the risk for all their highly unpopular changes to the game.

“I’m feeling lucky, let’s eliminate flight! Who would leave over that? Hardly anybody. Nobody that matters, anyway.”

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To your question, not really. Is it lazy to just be tired of doing it all over again? I have a priest near level cap, but if I race change I lose out on the heritage armor. Deal breaker, not really I suppose.

The real ball buster here (at least to me) is the boiler-plate max level requirement for everything. Can’t people just have a little fun without being max level by enjoying new content. I am referring to the older races heritage quest lines. Yes, there can be a level requirement, sure. Let’s make it 60 for the classic races, 70 for the TBC races, 85 for the Cata races, etc. The quest is about your races backstory, which has already happened. Is there some mass conspiracy where your racial leaders, friends, merchants, hobos kept you in the dark about how Quel’thalas or whatever came to happen?

Wouldn’t be neat to ding 60 and Bam! Mekatorque or whoever summons you for the quest to unlock your races heritage. After it’s all said and done you get some experience, learn some cool backstory, and acquire a neat set of armor?

Is that lazy? I’m sure some people think so. There can be a middle ground between Classic and BFA.

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4586

Guess you weren’t around before 7.3.5.

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