honestly, I don’t even blame the report system 
the problem is the players. imagine feeling so entitled and arrogant that you report people for not playing a battleground the way you like.
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As was already pointed out he’s Alliance, but also still no. Horde capping snowfall is absolutely not valid justification for account action.
Hunters pulling the druids is actul gameplay sabotage, which people somehow got away with for months on Era. As far as I know they were never banned despite floods of reports.
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I am having the same issues with trying to submit a ticket for appeal, I was able to last night but now its gone and I cannot submit anything. Do we have any idea whats actually going on with the appeals or is it just blizzard saying thanks for the money gg see you in 2-4 weeks?
Touche’
This game’s a shhht show anymore and when I replied I was probably drinking because, ya know! I have 12 jobs 5 wives and 14 kids. All jokes aside, as a Vanilla player who strictly did 5-10Mans 10% of my play time while the other 90% was sitting in queue for 2-4hrs to get into an AV game that I was in before I went to work for 10hrs…lol. I miss the old days and while living in the past won’t help anything I still find myself passionate about the game that I once loved and still enjoy/like.
Cheers dude, even if you’re Horde =p
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literally nobody is losing their minds over legitimate afk’rs getting banned.
You’re trying WAAAAAAY to hard to be another forum troll.
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That is actually not clear. There has been zero verifiable evidence that anyone was unjustly suspended.
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Careful now, someone will show you an unrelated example of someone who did get their suspension overturned on appeal, for something that had nothing to do with AV, and hold it up as definite proof that all suspensions for being AFK in AV are unjust.
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Clearly not understanding the Analogy then.
People are getting banned for playing the game as intended, and Blizzard defenders are saying “you asked for it” which is 100% not what people asked for. They did not ask for Blizz to ban based on target banning by an arbituary number which is the problem.
Surely it’s not that hard to get.
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Can you proof that the bans are justified? Do you know how they are implemented? If you can’t answer those questions, then that’s a real problem
What proof would even suffice given you have no real way to prove you were not afk on the forums. Unless you want footage of all the games the people played showing they didn’t afk.
Only people who can proof any of it are Blizzard, and they hold all the power of it.
I’ve said above, played with a handful of people all week who never went afk and were still suspended.
So you can believe what you want, but thats the only real evidence anyone can provide right now.
Also note multiple posts about people mass reporting everyone in AV for the sake of it, and getting notified for helping so…
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I wouldn’t waste your time on them i look on this thread and see like 15 hidden messages.
Most people know that there are a lot of wrongful bans but anytime people come on the forums to discuss it they get dog piled by lvl 20 troll accounts with 30,0000 posts.
Best thing you can do is pretend they don’t exist it drives them wild.
I understand it, it’s just a laughably bad analogy. Your inability to craft a good one isn’t my shortcoming, it’s yours.
If you can confidently say that people are being banned for playing the game as intended, surely you can provide compelling evidence? We clearly agree that supplying evidence for one’s claims is important since you said this:
Burden of proof is on the one making the initial claim though, and thus far, there hasn’t been anything.
Ok, so only Blizzard can prove anything. Blizzard employees have said several times that bans arent automated and every ban is the result of an actual employee reviewing a report.
So you acknowledge Blizzard has the proof, yet you also still confidently say it’s wrong and the people who “never went afk and were still suspended” must be telling the truth even though they have no evidence to support their claims.
Glad we cleared up that this is just another conspiracy theory post.
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Have them post in the CS forums and let a Blue illuminate stuff for them
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The burden of proof lies on the person making the claim. This is just a logical rule…
No it isn’t. Just because Blizzard isn’t transparent about their moderation doesn’t mean that there exists a problem. You have to prove that there is a problem.
Right… and that’s why they shouldn’t come to the forums at all with this type of thing.
Which is why I’m more inclined to trust them than an average forum user.
“My friends said they didn’t afk” isn’t evidence that any of us take seriously.
- You’re getting baited lol
- Even if this were true - yes, they’re likely to receive a “Thanks for helping” notification because many many people violate a ton of rules in AV.
Stop letting yourself succomb to conspiracies and think more logically please.
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This is entirely false.
As an Alliance, my direct counter to Horde either playing a turtle strat at Van or wiping on the cave is to take and hard secure the IBGY choke point. I do this because it’s the best chance Alliance has at not getting turtled up at IWB because it gives us a forward GY to spawn at and removes the most powerful GY in the game from Horde control.
The result of this is that Horde are typically turtled at the cave. We will farm them at the IBGY choke until Galv and IBT is secure, then we push them back into the cave so we can secure TP and/or push around into FWK.
If Alliance are holding SHGY, as they will sometimes do while IBGY flips, a very intelligent Horde counter to this strategy is to take and hold SFGY, which gives Horde players dying at the IBGY choke in that early/mid game phase an out. Horde now have several strong options…
- Harass IBGY and delay Alliance O while renewing their own offensive.
- Retake IBGY and kick Alliance out to turtle them.
- Rush DB while the bulk of Alliance is distracted at IBGY.
What you are calling gameplay sabotage is simply playing the game. Just because it doesn’t lead to a 6 minute win and maximize your honour gains doesn’t mean it’s a reportable offense. The entire premise for your post is that AV was meant to be a fast honour farm and that it’s a flaw in the map’s design that people can do things that don’t directly contribute to that goal.
When I’m grinding honour I enjoy the 6-minute meta games as much as the next guy, but you all have gotten a little too big for your britches. Not only does Blizzard need to fix their absurd reporting system and expectations, they also need to make the following changes…
- Van, Drek, Warmasters, and Marshals gain a 2x stacking damage and hp multiplier for every friendly faction tower/bunker that still stands.
- Every 10 seconds, Warmasters and Marshals gain a stacking movement speed buff. Every time they make a successful melee attack, one stack of this buff is removed.
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I don’t know what servers you play on but any horde character that even looks at snowfall is called out for sabotage.
The poorly designed thing is AV first and foremost. Giving a way for PVErs to get PvP gear while not engaging in PvP was not a bright move.
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They have clarified this in the following thread:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/harpies-in-av/2097679/34
Some may report if you are not participating in the manner they feel you should, but that doesn’t necessarily do anything. As I said, the application of those penalties are not automated. They are based on your actions, and the data your actions provide.
That said “Farming” tends to indicate you are spending a great deal of your time doing that and you might take keep in mind what are you contributing to the overall match. While completing certain tasks in a BG isn’t exactly the same as non-participation, we tend to look at overall patterns when evaluating non-participation.
Just to be clear, that isn’t true. Simply being reported isn’t what results in an action. The reports are important, but they draw attention for our teams to look, they do not themselves result in a penalty.
So no, they won’t ban you just because you capped snowfall.
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I read that whole thing and my interpretation is that they would…
Update: appeal has been submitted, awaiting response
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Unfortunately, I suspect the action related to you was likely for being AFK/Non Participation, not for capping Snowfall. If in the majority of the games you play, your strategy is to go to Snowfall GY, cap it and then ‘guard’ it till the game is over, this would essentially put you in a position where you rarely if ever are doing any healing/damage for the vast majority of time you are spending in AV.
One of the metrics which has been identified that they look at around participation is how much damage/healing you in each game over a range of games. While it’s possible just killing the guards around the flag might be enough, I would suspect that would not be enough.
Either way, good luck with your appeal, going forward, I recommend mixing things up a bit more, and if you decide you must cap snowfall, I wouldn’t spend the whole game guarding it.
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Sounds like you need to go post on the customer support forum so you can get called out by a CM…