Citation, Citation, Citation. Saying “Wowpedia” is not enough. You need to read what they cite, and what they cite does not in any way support what you have posted.
When did Eonar ever meet Alexstrasza and Ysera?
When did Nozdormu meet Aman’Thul?
When did Malygos meet Norgannon?
When did Neltharion meet Norgannon?
Spoiler
They didn’t. They were dead/imprisoned by Sargeras before the aspects were hatched.
The only dragon chosen by any gods was Neltharion: Chosen by Old Gods of the Void to infect and control Azeroth.
Like I said, it wouldn’t let me include links, but I’ll give you an excerpt from “Dawn of the Aspects”, where Kalecgos witnesses the transformation of the Dragon Aspects through Malygos’ eyes:
Kalec tried to seize on her words, but at the same time, the newcomers raised their hands. He also suddenly sensed that there was another, greater presence acting through the keepers, that presence being the true force bringing about the proto-dragons’ coming transformations.
The titans.
It is happening! the blue dragon thought. The titans are the ones overseeing the transformation, the creation of the Aspects!
From Chronicle: Volume 1 - “Charge of the Dragonflights”
Acting as conduits of their creators’ powers, the gathered keepers bestowed the blessings of the Pantheon upon each proto-dragon.
Highkeeper Ra channeled the powers of his creator, Aman’Thul, into the proto-dragon Nozdormu. Of all of Aman’Thul’s myriad powers, Nozdormu was blessed with a mastery of time itself. Henceforth, Nozdormu became known as the Timeless One, and he held dominion over the interweaving pathways of fate and destiny.
The nurturing and ever-merciful Freya called upon her creator, Eonar, to empower the proto-dragon Alexstrasza. Known thereafter as the Life-Binder, Alexstrasza would devote everything she was to the stewardship of the living world. Having proved her courage and compassion in the battles against Galakrond, she was crowned the Dragonqueen and given command over her kind.
Freya also beseeched Eonar to bless Alexstrasza’s younger sister, the proto-dragon Ysera, with nature’s influence. Ysera was charged with keeping watch over the flowering wilds of Azeroth from within the Emerald Dream. Bound to this ethereal realm, she descended into an endless trance and became known thereafter as the Dreamer.
Keeper Loken called on his creator, Norgannon, to endow the proto-dragon Malygos with incredible arcane powers. Henceforth, Malygos would be known as the Spell-Weaver. The limitless realms of magic and hidden arcana would be his to share, explore, and protect.
Lastly, Keeper Archaedas asked his creator, Khaz’goroth, to bestow some of his vast power upon the indomitable proto-dragon Neltharion. Known afterward as the Earth-Warder, Neltharion was given charge over the mountains and deep caverns of the earth. He embodied the strength of the world and served, for many long ages, as Alexstrasza’s greatest friend and confidant.
This discussion has greatly strayed from the topic of the original post so in order to keep things tidy and not force folks to read through blocks of texts of he-said she-said based on magic flying reptiles, I’d like to end this here.
Just like I never stated Wrathion helped us fighting the Legion, I never stated that the Titans actually met the dragons. If there’s conflicting information then that’s simply Blizzard’s fault, because only a few pages from where you referenced is where it goes into detail about how the dragons received their empowerment. You’re trying to argue against points that were never made in the first place, so I’m just going to conclude that you’re trolling and move on with my life. Have a lovely day.
There is a difference between making stupid moves and making arrogant ones.
Wrathion actually thought he could control Garrosh something that naturally went sideways as everyone but him and Kairoz knew would happen. Furthermore there’s the fact that for all his wanting to prepare Azeroth for the Legion’s return, he ended up triggering it because the AU Draenor that Wrathion and co brought Garrosh too, had it’s own Gul’dan, who eventually made his way to Azeroth and summoned the Burning Legion.
Wrathion then make the bold choice to do nothing about it, even if you ignore his role in the cluster of events that led to Legion happening, the fact is by doing nothing about said invasion Wrathion discarded his his self appointed task to protect Azeroth at any cost. There is still no explanation for that.
His only appearance in Legion was during the Deaths of Chromie scenario in which he was visiting Northrend and told us he was doing so for his own amusement.
In short Wrathion decided that he alone knew what was best, that his way was the only way, refused to consult anyone, and when things went sideways he went afk.
I believe that in BFA, where we try to track down Wrathion through his journal pages, his decision not to engage in the Legion was because he needed to make headway with the battle against N’Zoth that was inevitable to come. I’m not currently at my computer so I can’t source this information at the moment and I’m going off of memory, so feel free to fact-check me on this one.
While his journal entries are about his focus on fighting against N’Zoth, the exact time frame when they were created is unknown. That is just pure speculation, with the time frame ranging from whenever he returned to Azeroth till when he wrote the entries.
So were looking at a possible timeframe of During/End of WoD (If he returned to Azeroth at some point during WoD), during Legion (as you theorized), after Legion, or the beginning of BfA.
We just know by end of the War Campaign, the journals were arranged for us to find as we worked on saving Ebyssian.
Sure, that makes sense to me. Like you said, a lot of what Wrathion was doing during late WoD/Legion/Early BFA seems to be up to speculation as it hasn’t been confirmed, but I think stating that he “went afk” is kind of selling him a bit short. At around the same time it was revealed he was searching for the Dragon Isles, I’ve not looked into too much into Dragonflight’s story as I’d like to keep myself spoiler-free until I can actually get to play it, but I’d like to think that after witnessing the events on Draenor, Wrathion concluded that the current forces of Azeroth were capable enough of fighting the Legion without his aid, and decided then to dedicate his time on specialising himself on things he was certain we would need help on - like N’Zoth’s invasion, or whatever threats lie ahead of us in the Dragon Isles.
I know Wrathion has historically not been known to be very practical, but he seemed to have really matured since the end of MoP and his return in BFA, so I’d like to think the consequences of his actions on Draenor gave him a reality check haha.
Him actively warning us that the Legion would return and wanting to prepare us for it, only for them to return with him nowhere to be seen is him basically being afk. We just don’t know what, if anything, he was doing during this time. And the Deaths of Chromie involving time travel make it murky as to when Wrathion was visiting Northrend for his own amusement.
Edit: To be honest him being a no show in Legion, after he was all “The Legion will return!” and “Azeroth must be prepared at any cost” in Mists, will always be a black mark against him from me. Until Blizzard reveals what, if anything, he was doing… my opinion cannot change nor budge.
It was, though he like the mortals knew nothing about them. I personally, at the time., thought the Dragon Isles were going to be the 8.3 patch zone before we got the revamped Uldum and Vale of Eternal Blossoms.
That’s an interesting theory and one that is possible since in one of the journal entries he does show that growth and note how his own actions do justify distrust in him from others like the former aspects.
For a moment you could see Wrathion, as a whelp, at Khadgar’s tower in Talador after you defeated but failed to capture Cordana Felsong after she announced her defection. Which happens after the events of Hellfire Citadel (so the end of WoD). As for where he went after that we don’t know. But considering he used Karazhan’s catacombs as a base of operations until he went MIA again means that he moved in at some point after the whole ‘collect da artifact weapons stage’ since the Catacombs was the base for the Dark Riders of Deadwind Pass. In which Affic locks, balance druids and unholy DK’s kill their leader there.
Since you seem to lack basic literary comprehension please show me where I stated that the dragons met the Titans, and where you disprove that there aren’t at least a number of characters in the Warcraft universe that don’t view the Titans like Gods.
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Idk how to multi quote on phones. You stated wrathion and all dragons had a god given duty.
Once again, please show me where I stated that the dragons ever met the Titans and where you disproved that there aren’t at least some characters in the Warcraft universe that think of the Titans as “Gods”. I have shown you that they have been empowered by the Titans not because they met them, but because they met the keepers and the Titans channelled their powers through the keepers.
After all, if you consider the Old Gods as “Gods”, and the Titans are in the same position on their half of the Warcraft cosmology chart, would they not also be “Gods”?
Depends on how relevant he is to the story. So far presumably to some extent and he could definitely be relevant but so far this seems to be covering some deep lore.
Which is cool because I was ignorant to most of this until recently. I actually thought for years that the Red Dragons were sterilizing the area during the Wrathgate. I did not know their fire can also heal. And I played from Vanilla to Wrath and have always been fairly interested in the lore. Dragons and Titans just don’t come up much Redside and weren’t interesting to me on their own to warrant any further reading until they were relevant.
Wrathion’s a fairly new addition and is only responsible for the events of WoD onward an in extremely convoluted way that really probably isn’t going to look great in a cinematic as they’d need Nozdormu to hold up a flow chart while explaining it.
He’s responsible for Varian’s death in the same way like Gavrilo Princip is responsible for the Vietnam War.
Ironically Anduin and Wrathion and as bad as each other. They are children who believe they know better than everyone else around them. So, when they screw up terrible the story ignores it, and they don’t learn anything and continue to be the same arrogant children.
