Not exactly RDF but close.
The LFG tool isn’t cross realm, and it doesn’t teleport the group to the dungeon like RDF does.
I’d be fine with the beta LFG tool if it did auto matchmaking, so you could queue and do other in game activities while waiting for the group is formed to pop.
If you want to you can too lmfao
Imagine imagining.
Yes, my experience with the game will most certainly be “ruined” without it. Finding dungeon groups is an awful experience. I don’t mind running to dungeons. I am always one of the people at the stone doing the summonings. I like fighting my way through trash mobs to the instance portal. I However, I do not enjoy always being the one to proactively wrangle a group together. Potentially spending an hour, over an hour, until I give up, scanning an LFG and mentally filtering the flood of irrelevant information. Constantly getting ghosted or having players bail while forming is an awful experience. It’s not uncommon to go through two full sets of people before one is filled. And if you’re trying to run something on a lower leveled alt, you could very well be there all day. Being whispered by tanks with their price is obnoxious. Even if I am willing to wait longer for a tank, if my party decides that they would rather give them the uncontested greens / blues / purples / nethers / gold / whatever is they want, then I am now in a position where I either go along with this or wrangle together another group to potentially face the same issue. I get others asking to reserve loot similarly and refuse to pick up those that might also roll on their loot.
Yes, I would love to have a button that I could simply push to bypass this so that I can simply be thrown into a group for the dungeon. So that I may run it without having to go through negotiating with those who will accept nothing less than the path of least resistance. Dungeons are relaxing and fun. The current process of forming one is a dull experience at best, and can take the wind out of your sails before your group is even formed. I will miss the social interactions I have had as a result of the current system about as much as I would miss the social interaction of a mugging.
Day 1 of the expansion, no, it won’t “ruin” everything in Wrath for me. However, once we reach a lull where we’ve hit max level and we’re simply looking to run dungeons, (which will take no more than a month for most to reach this point,) not having RDF does indeed “ruin” that experience for myself and many others. The deeper into the expansion and the lull we get, the worse it becomes. Is it 100% totally impossible, will never find a dungeon in my entire life, hasn’t been done, won’t be done, can’t be done, no one’s ever even seen a dungeon group, Utgarde Keep will go uncleared for years? No. Of course not. But, it doesn’t need to reach the point of extreme-extremes before they fix the problem by utilizing Wrath’s already-existing solution to these problems. Instead, we see them trying to reinvent the wheel while refusing the use of a circle. They started with a triangle, and with each new iteration they are progressing ever closer to that circle by adding one more side to the wheel until they end up with something close enough to it to declare victory. It’s madness.
Aren’t we self-important. No to all four sentences. The only one that needs to be convinced (and by convinced I mean buckle under the weight of the outcry in opposition to these changes) is the Blizzard whose mind is already made up. You are the last people that need to be convinced of anything. You who simply does not care one way or the other and believes that whatever Blizzard decides is fine are entirely irrelevant. Even when someone does present you with that good faith reasoning, your response is “I don’t care.” Changes are made (and prevented) for the people that care. Not for the people that accept whatever they are given. You are a bump on a log, and will continue to be a bump on a log with no valuable input of your own.
I never said it applies to everyone. I want RDF, because it applies to me. That’s my lived experience.
I’m not ignoring anything. I can’t find groups. You pointing out my weaknesses doesn’t help me, I already know I suck at it. So “thanks” for your sorry? And again, I’m not saying anyone else is bad at it. I’m saying “I am bad at finding groups, Blizzard please help me”.
That’s a funny thing to say about other folks for how they want to play games. “you aren’t playing the game like I want you to play, so you are lazy”. Or maybe you are saying, “You should work really hard at playing” which seems like a contradictory statement. I work really hard when I’m working. When I’m playing, I play for enjoyment. I would argue that every single person playing wow, regardless of how much effort they put into are could be considered “lazy” by someone who is busting their butt in the real world helping other people to the point where they have no time to play games. So yeah, you are lazy, I’m lazy, everyone in this forum is lazy.
I don’t get your problem with my request. Normally people who recoil at being asked a question do so because they don’t have an answer. I suspect it will be bad for the health of the game, because when people can’t find dungeons they get bored. When they get bored while logging into the game, they’ll quit. When the quit we have less players to play with. When there are less players to play with in an MMO, the health of the game decreases. So yeah, I don’t mind sitting here and telling you what I told you. Meanwhile, you disagree with me, but can’t explain why other than to say people are lazy during their entertainment time. /shrug.
It is unplayable. If my guild broke up, I would drop my sub in a heartbeat. Barking in LFG for hours trying to form groups is not compelling game play. So right now with WoW, I sub to go through the content to complete the new zones and get to max level. If my friends are playing at max level I log to play with them. When they are not playing I log off. If they drop their sub I drop mine. The only time I played without my friends is when RDF provided rewards that made me feel I could level and progress my alts.
So yeah, to me (and only me, I’m not speaking for anyone else even though you think I think I’m speaking for everyone), the game is unplayable without RDF. I’m not being hyperbolic. I’m not mad. I’m just being practical. I’ll drop my sub and find another thing to do in my down time.
they said while writing an entire post about why they’re important lol
empirically is not.
Because you are lazy. I never said you couldn’t play that way. Try again. I didn’t even say there’s anything wrong with it other than it’s painful lmao. That’s not even terrible either.
People who live in a bubble have no concept what the game’s experience is like for other players.
Its not launched yet
They said in a pathetically disingenuous manner; willfully ignoring any and all context.
I have a stake in the inclusion of RDF and wish for this decision to go a certain way. Not only this, but this is explicitly a topic for the feedback that I am giving.
You do not have a stake in the inclusion of RDF and are accepting of either decision, yet you seem to be under the impression that it’s the views of people like you that are of importance and will sway their decision.
Yes. The individual feedback of myself, and anyone else with a view that can lend weight towards a decision, are infinitely more valuable than a worthless I Am Okay With Anything And I Think Both Sides Are Equal take. Great, thanks. Your non-view is noted.
You are lazy too. So what? How does that impact anything to do with RDF? Should we remove parts of the game you enjoy because you are lazy? It’s not sound reasoning. Like A doesn’t lead to B, type thing.
I just gave my evidence why it is unplayable, so I don’t think you know what the word “empirically” means.
Everyone who says anything in the LFG Channel other than looking for a group or looking for more will be reported using the crap tools you provided us.
Until you can get a LFG tool that works instead of having to deal with the Toxic LFG Channel this will continue
This LFG tool they’ve created feels like they want to push the mythic+ retail experience on the classic players. I hate that experience. I’d much rather go for an RDF that is more inclusive to all player types and encourages running older content to boot.
I can’t believe Blizzard would opt to remove RDF from the Wrath classic… but this isn’t the first decision to land poorly with the players.
WHERE ARE MY ALT CHARACTERS?! its been 12 days blizzard…12 days without my characters. You auto transfer to a realm that is EVEN MORE DEAD than my previous realm. You dont increase gold cap for transferring. HOW IS 5k goldcap even remotely enough?
This is absurd…pay 100 just to get your characters to a playable server…what kind of morons are running and making decisions for realms and transfers? Do you even log into your OWN GAME to see if it is a playable destination or if it is feasible? or do you just make decisions to launder more money out of your play base?
That has already happened and will continue in Wrath whether the RDF is implemented or not.
Why are you guys still trying to fix what ain’t broke? Just put the RDF back in like it was back in wrath, it’s literally part of the experience and you’re taking it away? So much for keeping true to classic
Couldn’t agree more buddy. Developers ignoring the majority of players while also making (bad, unwelcome) changes to our favorite expansion. Gg
Some ludicrous notion that they need to apply Vanilla design to Wrath…but only by removing dungeon finder. Every other change they’ve made has spit in the face of ‘the spirit of Classic’. So that nonsense isn’t the real reason.
My guess…they can’t get the old rdf to work right with the modern client and don’t want to commit the resources to fix it. Also, removing dungeon finder encourages players to buy more micro-transactions. So I believe that’s the reason, because it sure isn’t done for design purposes.