Just like the rest of us. That’s the beauty of it. You feel entitled to skip the scut work because you can afford it on the outside. No thanks.
Over the years I’ve had a few in-game friends who struggled a little coming up with the sub fee. It’s cheap entertainment for most of us westerners, but it can bite a bit for some of us. I want those people to have the same chance in the game that you or I’ve got. If farming for gold in game is below you, something only the little guys have to do, maybe you should examine your values.
Nothing wrong with my values. I value time as well as money. Some people have a lot of time, some people have a lot of money. Your friends could play for free by letting me buy some gold from them. That’s how a free market works. Then they could save their money and spend it on something else.
WoW isn’t about creating a digital utopia of equity. It’s a game for having fun in. I don’t value the experience based on how much grinding I do. Only the elitists see it as a game to get things other people don’t have. The real game is getting to the good parts where you’re raiding with your friends or doing PvP zergs at 60. My friends don’t want to wait up because I didn’t have time to kill mobs all day to afford my epic mount. The fact I can’t pay someone with the gold who needs sub time is the real issue here.
Yes, I totally agree. Which is why we should add the Token, and kick out the gold farmers. Having a safe, easy way to trade money for gold that Blizzard makes money from is the way towards a game that is even better than Vanilla. In Vanilla, pretty much every chat channel was abused to spam gold selling messages. People were phished over PSTs. People were buying hacked gold. These are all the things that made the game worse. Adding the Token raises the bar by cleaning up a system that players are obviously going to use no matter what.
I can almost hear those weeping violins from my desk. You poor, sad fellow. You just want to trade a little cash for time. You’re a busy man after all. Who has time these days for the harder or more irritating things in WoW. You’re there for the big raid successes.
Well what you want is what we see on this forum all the time - entitled folk wanting easy gear, easy money, shorter leveling effort, an expedited rank system that doesn’t penalize the working man.
Forget it. In WoW Classic we are all playing the same game. We are equals. Spend as much or as little time as you want in game. The field is level.
Blizzard has already legitimized it in all of their other games. It has become available in most video games. So your argument that it is somehow immoral is upstream of where the industry is headed. Maybe you don’t have the kind of real life commitments that make you understand why some people need something like the Token. I believe that WoW Classic is better off with more players than less. Giving people options increases the amount of players. Vanilla had millions of players, most of which were casuals. People on the forums can pretend that WoW was about hardcore raiders grinding legendaries, but the reality is that most people were stuck leveling. People had to buy gold to afford their mounts, bags, and supplies. It wasn’t a big deal. It will happen in Classic as well, and it won’t be a big deal.
I personally don’t begrudge people deciding to opt out of the need to sacrifice even more time to the game in order to enjoy certain aspects of it. But, then there are the bad apples that take it too far and the people that get hurt by that, however indirectly. I suspect you see no difference between those two classes of people, but I digress.
Regardless, if you think the ridicule and distaste of you and others like you—combined with Blizzard policing it to the extent that they can—will be enough to keep the worst consequences of gold selling in check, then I can see why you advocate so strongly for that position. However, I did play very extensively in Vanilla and I remember how ineffective the stigma was then in many circumstances. But times have changed and people’s attitudes have changed, so I suppose we’ll see how it goes.
If they ever added a token to Classic, I’d instantly be gone. There’s not much that would immediately drive me from the game, but a Classic token would.
That’s what’s nice about having retail around. A relatively poor player can go over to retail, farm up enough gold to buy a token, and jump back to Classic for a pure Azeroth experience.
No to pay-to-win in Classic.
If you feel you must buy gold for Classic, then get it on the black market and take your chances.
If u can’t play as much to get as much gold then that is what it is. It is the world of warcraft and there shouldn’t be anny outside help to cheat your way through it.
I don’t think it would work… How much could you possibly get for them in classic where gold will be A LOT lower, at least in the beginning.
If the player who wants one also plays retail, why would he spend harder to come by gold on a token he can buy in retail and achieve the same game time?
maybe after classic has been out for a year or so then maybe, and I stress maybe it would be worth the effort for some to buy it in classic.
I also am an adult with a job, kids, house, etc, etc and so forth and I would LOVE to be able to “buy gold legally” to save time but I just do not see it happening.
So my plan is to recoup some of the losses I have incurred over the years from siring these children! “Want to go to the park? Better have mined me some ore!”
The biggest reason it wasn’t in check in Vanilla was the lack of prosecution by Blizzard against the gold sellers and then onto their customers. They are far better at chasing the gold sellers now, but we’ll see if the effects flow to the customers too.