Believe me, it was a lot worse before the token came out.
Nothing you brought up explains why your points ruin the game.
Boosting? Good luck with being boosted at 2200 RBG, 2400 Arena, Cutting Edge, a 5000io score.
Items don’t make you a better player and they’re easy to spot. At the highest level, it’s very hard to get boosted. If you do, it will cost a fortune, so it’s not hurting actual competition.
Flipping? It’s the same as it has always been, just higher numbers.
Genuinely confused as to what you think the actual issue is based on your post, but I also might just be bad at reading.
Boosting? That’s the problem? Look, you can buy your way up to a 2200 RBG score, but when you’re going up against someone who had to do it the hard way…
You can’t buy experience, OP.
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Yet another overreaction based on limited personal experience, and opinion.
What doesn’t ruin the game, lol?
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You realize 2200 RBG is top 800 in the US right? 2200 RBG was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in this game, especially as a hunter.
I’ve literally never seen anyone boosting this high, and If they did, the price would be so absurd that such a negligible % of people could afford it to make it an issue. Everything at a high level like that is insanely hard to boost people in woithout someone else actually playing your toon.
Show me one 2200 RBG boost and the price they want for it.
My point was, at actual competitive levels, you’re not getting boosted unless you’re paying 5-10 million gold, real money, or letting someone play your account and it gets banned. So, boost your 15s and 1800 RBG because it doesn’t matter. No one is messing up actual competitive things in the game with wow tokens.
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That’s how priorities work. “I have a real life” everyone here has a “real life” - that’s just nonsense from people who think they’re entitled to everything they want. UwU
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That’s the problem!
You’r aware poeple just used third party website b4 ?
I used gold to buy SL. I raced changed this DK with gold. I don’t play the AH but have a ton of gold. I don’t buy mounts, pets, gear, etc. Seems like a good system to me. I could have easily paid for SL and a race change with cash but why not use all this gold I’ve been hording? Someone wants gold, I didn’t want to spend real money on SL and the race change. We both got what we wanted.
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People would just go back to buying gold from those hack sites op. Not only is blizzard now getting a piece of the pie, they are also saving some money by not having to pay people to have to go retrieve some chumps account that got stolen, because they bought gold from a hack site. Used to believe that league of legends had the whiniest bunch of nerd raging cry babies in gaming, but then there is wow 
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Gold inflation was a thing before the token was implemented.
Boosting was a thing before the token was implemented.
Multi-boxing has only surged in popularity because of the Longboi, and it’s hard to tell if the issue is going to stay at the extremes it is in SL because of it. (And if it does, something does need to be done about it, but it has nothing to do with the token.)
RMT is more of an issue than the token; people are still buying carries for stuff like Gladiator, CE, Keystone Master, ect ect, with it because it’s just cheaper to do so.
And frankly, we’re never getting rid of boosting, so it’s probably better to have the token than not in regards to that.
…this is beyond wrong.
You’re making x5 the profit no matter what.
If you’re doing hyperspawn farming, that costs nothing but your sub time, and you’re making x5 the profit no matter what with higher gains in general and much higher chances of getting rare loot that sells for more.
You’re getting x5 the loot from every node.
You’re able to craft x5 of the same item at once, speeding up the process.
If you’re paying for the subs with a token, the time investment to get the tokens is the same as if you were getting just one for one account, and everything after that is pure profit multiplied.
When I have multi-boxer friends opening up trade and dumping their extra world drop epics at me because I sell in a different way to them (just to help/keep me from undercutting them), there’s an issue. That amount of supply should not exist.
I think WoW token saved the game, rather than ruining it. Without it, we’d have even less subs.
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One thing I would say though is it has led to some wonky gold making behavior since you can convert it into balance.
When it was only for sub time (when it launched) there was no reason to hoard gold or to keep a maxed balance of tokens either.
That being said, I likely would’ve stopped playing ages ago … so i can see the pros and cons to both sides.
Weren’t WoW tokens originally brought out to deal with the gold inflation issue caused by WoD garrisons? If so, can’t see them going away, some people probably gold capped several times over during that time and Blizz needed to do something, plus it cuts down on illegal gold selling which should mean fewer hacked accounts from people buying from those sites.
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Tokens provide income for creating content. Why not let the person with less time and more cash contribute more to the game so you can enjoy it?
If a person with no time buys a carry, they might get one upgrade. They still have other slots that need attention and would have been better off just running M+. Most gold is just spent on cosmetics anyway.
Also happens on Classic where no token exists so players will do what players can do to make gold, just as they always have.
You guys think as soon as you report someone they should be banned immediately. You really can’t see the problem with that?
The horse is dead, but by all means keep beating it till your arms fall off.
Tokens are preventing you from having the ability to play the game? How exactly is that possible? Nothing in this post has affected my ability to play the game. It just another elaborate “multi boxing is bad” post.
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Why do people always think that only their way of “playing the game” is valid?
There are people who actually enjoy farming raw gold and injecting more of it into the economy. As long as there is no limit on those people, there will always be disparity. Blizzard facilitating a system where those people can play for free in exchange for transferring their gold to people who dont find those activities fun is a GOOD THING. Without it you’ll just have the problem Classic does, where people do it anyway via the black market.
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Agreed. WoW Token is destructive. Expansions and their features will be covertly built upon how many tokens they can sell now. BFA was a testament to how income can be made from tokens.
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go look at the gold buying, bot-infested, rmt armageddon happening in classic without tokens and tell me tokens are still the problem.
of course the ideal solution would be a robust GM team that actually investigates and bans botters, gold buyers, and sellers with a quickness and enforces the ToS, but this is activision so i wouldnt hold your breath for that one.
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I guess, then, that the problem is a more fundamental one. Our fault for putting so many eggs in an Activision basket, I guess.
Oh, I completely understand that, and I understand that if someone with enough money wants something bad enough, they’ll throw money at it.
My point is that it all falls apart when a player is actually has to do it because you can buy a title but you can’t buy experience. A heroic raid group can get AOTC every single time, a group of KSM players can get it every season, a 2200 RBG player can claw their way up with every season (unless they play destro lock), but if you buy those achievements, what’re ya gonna do, buy it every single time?
We’re talking about people who are willingly short-changing the fun they can get out of this game by buying the trophies without actually having run the race, so before you ask a common sense question like “do you have any idea how much you’ll have to spend to get 2200,” please remember these are fools with a lot of money.