It’s not just my view, it was what actually happened. People hated WoD not because of the story, but because there was nothing to do in it!
Pvp was pretty strong in WoD, what stone are you living under.
The only use of proffessions in wrath was self enchants, your lying to yourself otherwise.
Yes it was. Again you have no idea of what your spouting about here.
It used to but I’m not so sure anymore. It’s grown a little too diverse.
I get the lore behind Prelates of Rezan, for instance. But a Zandalari Paladin using Crusader Strike, calling upon the Holy Light, and collecting an Ashbringer, feels really weird from where I’m sitting.
Not to mention the embarassment of the Priest Class identity. When you can get Lightforged shadow priests and Void Elf Holy Priests. And even in Legion, all the priests hung out together despite having diametrically opposed views. It’d be like asking the Pope to hang out with the Satantic High Priest to go beat up some baddies - not going to happen.
Class identity is so muddled at this point I’m at a point where I just think everyone should have everything with their own specific lore explanation for it.
Mate Alleria is literally blonde haired and blue eyed. Furthermore the void-transformed Void Elves were made that way by a specific event whereby they were almost all turned into Ethereals. Since that time, we’ve seen a tremendous amount of Blood Elves and High Elves in Telogrus Rift trying to study the void.
Those could be the normal-toned Void Elves, from where I’m sitting. Elves that, like Alleria, are dedicated to mastering the void but haven’t been forcefully transformed into a part-ethereal void abberation.
Revan you claim wod PvP was bad and and have never achieved a rating over 900. Can you explain in your personal experience why wod PvP was bad? I really am trying not to believe you’re not just here trolling.
Yes, they are non-existent in lore though, just like forsaken priests using holy magic in masse (it was actually pretty darn rare, forsaken priests where mostly shadow priests in lore)
I will just have to disagree on this.
Mate, alleria had a different, and more controlled way of getting void powers completely seperate from the PC void elves, which was forcefully changed, mutated, and in an uncontrolled environment, they also do not have full control of the powers unlike alleria, so but off on that excuse ok?
What about all the normal-looking elves in Telogrus actively studying the void? They couldn’t learn it and use it with the Void Elves like Alleria learned it prior to eating that Shadow Naaru on Argus?
My point here is exactly that - they either don’t exist in lore or they’re very rare and yet we can play them anyway. Why not allow that for any class at this point?
Anyway yeah we can agree to disagree on that one - just my two cents!
No reason that can’t be done with the shadow.
Actually one of the biggest problems is that shadow is linked to the void, it never should
have been.
It should have been an aspect of the light.
A shadow can only exist in the presence of light.
Light/shadow vs Void/darkness.
Darkness being the actual absence of light, and void the absence of all.
Having ret use more of a shadowy side of the light would have been neat.
But everything you described above, there’s no reason the same can’t be done for any other power.
“The only reason why shadow wielding paladins could exist in WoW was because priests themselves had no way to defend themselves on the battlefeild while supporting their allies, so they choose to train knights how to use the shadow, and priests how to fight. Then the lore goes from there that paladins afterwards get’s embued/blessed by the shadow to use shadow magic.”
4 of the 5 first paladins were warriors who learned to use the light. A single one was a priest. He’s currently sitting on the throne of Stormwind…which may not bode well.
Sounds fun!
I’d had an idea that revolved around the void sentient living weapons where void creatures were being used to make them. A warrior part of some sort of expedition against the void loses his squad and is taken prisoner…ends up being melded with this void creature so you can both escape. This gives him void magic abilities. Could even have cool little void whispers from the creature.
A lot of it was inspired by venom/the klyntar which are void creatures as well.
Having a warrior bound with a physical void creature in contrast to the more ethereal aspects of the shadow priest would be neat.
A setup like a worgen where you can separately customize your abberation form with various things drawn from other void creatures/old gods…toothy maws, extra eyes, back/head tentacles.
So yeah…medieval spell casting Venom…
but fully formed.
One idea was even having weapons/shields and such that match your void form’s skin so it looks as though it’s formed from it as a transmog option.
Most armor could equip as normal…maybe helm disabled in favor of the void form.
We need a cool void melee spell casting class.
I still wouldn’t be opposed to paladins wielding the void in defense of Azeroth though. 
Or any other cosmic power.
Need to divide it out with a small bit of crossover into a proper high elf race.
More reason for visual spell customizations.
Give them spell effects that fit the race.
Shadow wielding paladins would have made a lot more sense for the twilight’s hammer instead of ones that wield light too. Serving the void while wielding the light? Whaaa…
I’m glad they rarely take any of the ideas from people off the forums. Most of the ideas people have on here would just outright kill this game and a massive timeskip would be one of those things that’d do that. I could go so far as to say maybe a couple years have passed while the players were in the shadowlands but anything beyond that would just be absurd writing.
It’s already been hinted that time is different between outside the maw and the maw at the least, if not other parts of the Shadowlands.
From the time the faction leaders are kidnapped and the players enter the maw, it is said between Thrall and Jaina that she has escaped ‘countless times’ in her words.
In the long exposition of Jaina with thrall piping in later, it is described how they have been tested, and Thrall about how in the time they have been there, they have had countless torments on them from the Jailor.
All seeming to indicate that a very long amount of time passed between their capture and when the player shows up, which granted I don’t believe it has been said how long it was in between the capture and players going into the maw, It doesn’t feel like it was that long
Still waiting for you to take on any of my arguments or answer any of my questions. Feel free to just stay pouty tho.
None of this means we’re going to come back to Azeroth with a timeskip. It means time operated weirdly from Jaina and Thrall’s perspective, not that Azeroth’s timeline is whizzing by while we’re hanging with the Brokers in Oribos.
Funny enough it’s my theory that the only reason Night Elf Paladins don’t exist is because blizzard is afraid they’d be insane in MDI which they care about a lot. Night Elves already dominate the scene. It’s very sad if this is a true theory.
Not real sure what that is…mythic dungeon thing?
If that’s the case, then yes, that’s stupid.
It’s basically a dungeon that you race through and make competitions of it, I personally don’t care for it.
Yeah, I don’t really have a group to play with, so I don’t bother with mythics. ooh invitational, it’s that thing wasn’t it?
Also feel like it’s not been good for the game, all the speed and skipping and such in regular dungeons sucks
For everyone that was in the Maw as Baine also made a similar comment after he’s rescued, and it is further commented on after rescuing Jaina again from Torghast, of which the player has also been spending plenty of time in (Maw and Torghast). The likelyhood of all the heavily hinted in-game time shenagins (not just some persons out of game comments) just meaning ‘nothing’ is slim.
But as was said before, we’ll just have to agree to disagree, and see what happens in the next expansion.
Because it’s bad writing. They couldn’t even depict some of that in game? Comes down to ‘show, don’t tell’ and blizzard still hasn’t learned that lesson apparently.
Just a Reminder folks there was Kul’tiran Paladins in Warcraft 2. Just saying.
Didn’t Warcraft 2 present all the human kingdoms as pretty much culturally homogenous though? Whereas subsequent lore has revealed Kul Tiras largely doesn’t even worship or revere the Light.
That would be cool! I think the Zandalari should have an ‘Order of Bwonsamdi’ of sorts, with Rezan being gone, to fill in the religious ‘void’
The big reason behind this line of thought isn’t actually anything from within the Shadowlands expansion itself. In the Death Knight order hall, in Legion, Salanar the Horseman tells you that mere weeks have passed in the Shadowlands since he last saw you – in the DK starter zone, released as part of WotLK and set before the events of TBC.