Iâm not part of the group who complains about PvP, but can people fâ'ing stop saying this? Such a stupid reply ffs.
what exactly is wrong with a pve server though? because you act like you will all stop being men or something if you roll on one.
nothing since most horde seem to play on a PvE server at this point
Ahh thanks for this Dekkar, way to be productive rather than the other cry baby bunch of this thread lol.
Ill provide this in the OP for others to compare it as well.
Itâs the fact it doesnât solve the fact that the person poured many days played into their characters and dropping it would overwhelm then. In fact Iâm sure it discourages players so much theyâd rather quit that start all over again.
i support pvp to pve transfers for everyone though. would at least let them be able to play.
Everyone linking ironforge pro really has to read the numbers before recommending the site. Its flawed all over the place.
Ye right, skeram has more raiding 60s than faerelina. Lol
Anything that doesnât fit your ideology or narrative is flawed right?
itâs more accurate than what you initially posted in the op though. which you asked if there was anything else and thatâs what i was shown when i asked about server pops, myself. itâs not perfect but itâs better than 3 month old info.
Yeah i appreciate that. TBH still doesnât even look that bad overall.
I guess maybe it doesnât look bad to me, since its been universally known horde pvpâs more than alliance (just look at retail bg queue times) and that alliance would outnumber horde on PvE/RP realms, and vice-versa with horde.
There is still some dominated PvP alliance realms though, and thats what I keep telling people, you made a coin flip when u first launched up on a PvP server without data on the realms
mankrik is where all the horde pve server people ended up. lol.
my toon is on ateish as horde though and things are extremely expensive. 
This was posted two months ago. The populations have gotten even more lopsided since. Do we just quit? Is that what you suggest? We canât even transfer off, and thereâs no way people are starting over after putting 15+ days /played into their characters.
The forums say you are replying to me (notification)?!?! You realize I am not the OP ye? Now I really doubt your judgement on things.
Ironforge pro also states deviate delight has 742 people. There is a casual guild there with +200 members on horde side. That would mean almost 30% of the server are just in one casual guild on horde side.
Ye, i really would not link that site. Might as well link wowclassicpopulation com
Im not saying they dont try, but its not even remotely accurate on how the numbers actually are server wide.
my thoughts on it are this⌠do you want to play classic LONG TERM or only until all the phases are out? because if youâre going to do multiple 60s and grind honor and do naxx on several toons then you need to be able to play, not worry that you have a 60 you canât use anymore.
i didnât respond to youâŚ? i was talking to him.
You wait it out until Blizzard releases paid transfers. (they had it in 1.12 not sure why they donât right now since we are playing on 1.12)
Gotta take responsiblity for your decision for picking a PvP server. If it was alliance dominated (assuming for your stance) you would have a much easier time and probably wouldnât be complaining. Youâd feel sympathy, but u wouldnât much care. You only care cause you are the affected one, and again thats partly on you.
Wait it out till they give us paid transfers.
What happens when AQ releases and thereâs no alliance? Horde gonna just make 2nd accounts in order to complete our side too?
You need to look ahead and not just this crappy part of it.
iâm on a pve server myself on the non-dominant faction. stuff like this doesnât affect me. but i do know that a lot of alliance on pvp servers are miserable right now. you donât have to be though.
Oh you were replying to me.
To give you a bit of insight, this is what started the trend on my realm. It actually wasnât as bad because those numbers you referenced didnât reflect 60s only, just overall rolling characters. As a result, A LOT of Alliance left. If they didnât, our server would for sure be a 40/60 at the leastâif not 45/55.
Now it definitely feels like 30/70. During peek hours there are still a lot of Alliance players logging on, but when you go into the world, you really begin to feel the faction discrepancy. Iâll save the rest before I get told to reroll on a PvE server lol.
I should mention it doesnât help that Alliance sometimes feel like they are against Alliance and Horde with a lot of colluding, mafia stuff, and private server guilds holding things hostage from other players. An example of this is witnessing players getting banned from world chat for under cutting costs on devilsaur items.
To answer you simply, no, I donât have up to date census. I donât like looking at them anyway, Iâm sure you can understand why.
Iâm sorry if it seemed that I was attacking you. Didnât mean it as such. I am making sure that any new eyes coming here see the quoted message that the original graph is very out of date, and inaccurate.