Makes sense. I misunderstood the purpose of the post. Game looks so old I didn’t even think to tinker with the graphics settings. Guess I’ll see if I can break my AMD 5950x and 6900xt.
I wouldn’t doubt the lua interpreter eats up some serious cpu cycles.
Facts. For good load times between zones you want a SSD. For good FPS you want a good CPU. Round that out with an average video card and RAM and you have a machine that will get the most out of the game.
This seems to be the consensus between most of the tech-presenters these days. Linus, Jayztwocents, etc. The prices are better for a prebuilt PC because those manufacturers get bulk discounts on components, and their orders get filled before Joe Schmo’s does. I think the only caveat being to shop for a GPU first but always compare the price-to-performance ratio. If the components of the pre-built are what you’d want in a PC, but all those parts are more expensive in total, a prebuilt is just fine to go with.
I’m gonna take that as sarcasm, as you’re clearly describing the opposite of a cpu bound scenario.
You’re free to express your opinion, even if you’re wrong. I just noticed there was some debate and having experience over the past 20 years, building, selling, and overclocking pcs, I thought it would be good to clarify things before more miss information is spread.
In a theoretical scenario with numbers pulled out of the void that cutely make you appear to have some sort of actual arguable point, yeah… I’m wrong.
Rensi, meet Wall.
Wall, meet Rensi.
Have fun.
^^ MVP post right here.
That’s the bulk of what the average player needs to know. There’s no need to get lost trying to decipher the uber geek speak of pretentious try-hards. Keep it simple and present actually useful information. Let the clowns entertain themselves.
I probably also should have said keeping your operating system current. I was resistant to upgrading to windows 10 but I got a significant performance boost when I finally had to. It was the same deal back in the day with windows 7.
I just wish they wouldn’t unnecessarily change things. If they could just fix the back end and leave the front end alone I’d be a happier customer. I hope whoever decided to “fix” the start menu sits on a tack. 
That and if you so desire down the road or at the time, you can simply pull parts out of the prebuilt and move them to what you want your PC to be.
Nah I swapped cases for the first time in link 15 years and fried the board. My wife has the same board and CPU that I recently killed and she also gets crap FPS. Fact is this game is so old that the coding is not designed to work on modern GPU’s, or really be able to make use of a GPU to maximise performance like many other modern games can.
I’m running…
Have everything set to max except shadows because they look ridiculous / fake maxed out. And I get 100fps in game. It slows down in big fights but it’s nothing bad. Still nice and smooth.
I think I had the same chip, it was an i5 9th gen, but worse card, a 1660s. I would get 90+FPS in the overworld, but in large fights would dump to 25. Now with the same card, same RAM, same everything except the M/B and CPU, I can now get 80+FPS in raid.
I even went into the CVAR settings and boosted my overworld and boosted my settings past normal, like the terrain load distance, I can see things so much further away and so clear that it’s kind of weird since I have never had it set like this before, still upwards of 100 FPS in overworld only due to a CPU upgrade.
Reminder to enable your XMP profiles and place the sticks in dual channel config.
The OC settings won’t magically apply (Need to enable it in BIOS) and dual channel usually requires you populating the 1st and 3rd or 2nd and 4th slots if you’re only doing two out of four.
Id say I notice issues too actually.
Built in February 2020. Right before Covid spread its wings in America.
SSD
ASUS - ROG Crosshair VIII Hero (Socket AM4) - I think. Been 2 years since I built this. Not currently home but 94% positive. So 2 16GiG Sticks.
AMD Ryzen3900X
2060 Super
32GB RAM. CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) _ Again…PRETTY sure that’s the RAM…without being at home to check.
Basically 1080p but its actually a TV, 32inch or so, because I’ve been stingy about investing in an actual monitor. I suppose the info below could be tied to the display?
That’s the interesting part. I saw someone say most people just plug in the RAM and go and never make sure its running at the right speed/settings. I checked mine and sure enough! 3200 RAM running at 2666 or something like that. I upped it to 3200 and it “felt” quicker though that might be an illusion. I did this like 2 months ago tops. That said, not long after that and for the first time, my PC would occasionally appear to turn on when I pressed the power button. However the power button light that goes around it wouldn’t be on and I would never get a picture. The only fix was holding the power button down until the PC turned off and keep rebooting till it worked. Usually a few tries. PC never gave an indication it noticed a start up problem or threw any errors. This happened randomly a few times. I set it back to what it was a week or 2 after that and haven’t had the problem since so I have NO idea what was up with that…but I also haven’t invested the time to research it. It works now…so game time.
So I notice the lag, which appears hardware, when I do world bosses. I don’t raid really but situations with raid level group content this seems to be an issue. There is like a 1 second delay between key presses and the execution on screen. Oddly, I also notice skipping as I fly away from the Nightfae main area. Once I get like 1000 yards or so it clears up. Any character. I have quite a few addons, All the Things, Dominos, Details etc. but I am too lazy to turn off the addons to see how that impacts stuff but I don’t appear to be the only one. I often have Netflix or something streaming. Sometimes a web browser with a few tabs. CPU is barely ever working according to control+alt+delete performance tab and RAM usage is never above 50%.
I play other games like Doom Eternal with no noticeable issues so based on that poor evidence, it appears to be tied to WoW.
I mention all of the stuff I do about RAM because its quite reasonable to assume that my limited understanding of the actual workings of the hardware that composes my PC leaves the hardware not optimized or poorly so and its quite possibly a factor in my performance issues. Why specifically WoW I am not sure but the evidence provided isn’t ground breaking in any way.
I turned on Ray Tracing with an AMD card and soon learned that’s a mistake. The whine of my GPU was rather annoying, and my FPS would randomly croak.
Everything else on max seems to be working just fine. I’m pushing 120 FPS on the regular. My setup is kind of gross though.
You don’t just “set” it to the target frequency. You need the full XMP profile. There’s timings that get filled in when you specifically select XMP in the BIOS.
Also it’s perfectly normal for a PC to reboot or get stuck on turning on when “breaking in” overclocked RAM for the first time. That’s actually the BIOS testing different memory timings to see which one works. If it doesn’t POST after a minute and gets stuck on a black screen you can usually hard power cycle the PC and it’ll go down the list of a new set of memory timings to use.
That’s a feature. The alternative would be for the end user to type in 40+ subtimings by hand manually, and usually you don’t get that amount of detail from the manufacturer, usually just 3 or 4 primary timings (like 16-16-16-36).
Also… as a bonus nearly as BIOSes will set command rate to 2N instead of 1N after successfully posting with OC’d RAM. That’s a secret freelo you can snag by changing it afterwards.
I have 2 laptops
I7 6700 2.6ghz with gtx1060 and 16gb ram with many programs loaded.
I5 8300 2.3ghz with gtx1050 ti and 8gb ram with only wow loaded.
The I5 is faster.
I run both at 3, but can turn it up higher without a problem. I just have them set at three to make sure they don’t get overloaded.
I see your point, and in a normal world you’d be 100% correct. It’s almost laughable that a modern game is so cpu dependent.
But in the current gpu market, it’s actually good to find games that rely on anything that isn’t an impossible to find component.
If WoW was gpu centric, it wouldn’t cost 100s to improve performance, it would cost 1000s - and that is if you can even get something that isn’t burned out from mining.
The game is single thread dependent, so CPU freq still matters more than core count for 4 or more cores for WoW.
Newer Skylake iterations often have a higher clocks, so that seems about right.
Locked multipler (non-K) 6th gen intel CPUs have pretty low base clocks.
This is why they need to look into redoing the code to make this game work better. WoW was first being coded back sometime around 1999 before WC3 TFT was released, that’s how old the platform is for this game.
It’s like grabbing Doom 3, adding textures and optimising that old code to try and make Doom Eternal, it won’t end up working too well. Or trying to make the new Matrix demo game using Unreal Engine 1.
WoW’s upscaling is actually pretty good (if a bit janky to configure). My RTX 3080 GPU died and I couldn’t get another one so I had to switch to my 3060 RTX laptop which I connected to my 4K monitor. The render resolution is at 1080p with a 4K upscale and you can barely tell it’s not native 4K. Pretty happy with it overall actually.
I’m wondering what you were doing to kill a 3080?