It’s not even Horde being evil, sometimes Horde characters just up and die for no reason.
I don’t think I’ll ever get over Vol’jin being Warchief for an hour. Followed by Saurfang getting Mary Sue deleted.
It’s real silly.
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The story seems to be setting up that Dude coming back somehow. He ran from Bwasomdi in the afterlife if you followed the BFA story. Seems hes trying to find something even in death…
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Yeah, it’s possible? But who knows, after Shadowlands the afterlife is like a wacky theme park in regards to continuality.
Guess time will tell.
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They technically did, the Sundering has the Alliance (aka Night Elves) summoning the Legion here
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He found out that a Loa influenced him to make Sylvanus the new leader of the Horde who was influenced by the Jailer, at the last time I checked on him in BFA, he was trying to find out who the Jailer was working for & a new body
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Also saving Re’zan when Mueh’zala tried to end him.
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Sylvanas used to hand out candy to homeless dwarven children when she thought nobody was looking and Xal’atath sometimes volunteers at a soup kitchen in Oribos.
Sorry, nobody is truly evil.
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I think the game exposes the villians too easily. Turns them from the mysterious Freddy in the first movie, to a joke parody by the third sequel.
The game needs more mystery. More shadows in the dark. More fear factor of not knowing whats out there.
That Blair Witch project movie had one redeeming quality…you just didnt know what exactly was really out there.
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That explains that almond (Cyanide) taste in my soup
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what’s up with sylvanas anyways is she chilling somewhere in the shadowlands or she dead dead?
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She’s in The Maw. I think whenever the Fallen Charger mount appears, it would be cool if she was riding it.
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So I’m technically right then? I did not even know all of that. I must of missed a piece of the story.
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She’s chillin like a villain collecting souls for a bit.
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Not many people did the full story of all 4 covens
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Shes serving the sentence the alliance gave her in the Maw so she can redeem herself and become part of society again. It seems to be almost eternal but elves live forever as well so. Also Shes undead? so I don’t think she even ages.
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Here’s the thing, villains typically are not villains in their own stories. They’re doing what they believe is right. Which is why you could get “misunderstood” vibes.
Some of the best villains I’ve seen in games were not pure evil, they were the hero of their story, but our paths crossed and someone had to come out the victor. Emet-Selch from FF14 comes to mind, he’s better than any villain WoW has ever had, and he had his own motivations.
The issue is, WoW does this poorly at times. Zovaal being the most prominent example, but he was literally thrown together at the last minute.
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Was he? Technically he was mentioned in BFA by a loa; and technically influenced things in Legion. Blizz has a habit of doing long arcs most people don’t see or realize
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Without evil 
villains there is no hero. No story to tell. Right now WoW has a villain called Xal’atath in which she is a diet coke of evil . No where near evil of the Arthas Menethil - the Lich King.
The Jailer was alluded to in BFA, but Zovaal is different entirely. Original concept art for the Jailer has him looking more like the the Primus than what we got. The Primus being the only one who knows domination magic is highly suspect, and there is a lot of speculation that he was originally going to be the Jailer. No way to know for sure, but Shadowlands story likely went through hasty rewrites after Afrasiabi was ousted.
Afrasiabi doesn’t get enough of the blame for how bad the story got. All of it goes onto Danuser, but the reality is that Afrasiabi came up with some of the stupidest ideas in the game including ‘One Legion, all timelines’ in WoD.
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I feel a pang of regret every time I (almost) kill him and his father’s ghost comes to comfort him in his final seconds of life.
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