Blizzard sent out a wow classic poll to a lot of folks. They may act on that feedback, such as providing a buff vendor or some such. We’ll see.
I do think Blizzard should consider maintaining a few classic servers but actually investing in a human to manage them (banning bots and what not.) They’d make their money back by folks transferring to TBC.
Someone decided not to run Dead Mines with me because he died and lost his world buffs, and didn’t want to parse poorly. I’m not making this up!
Exactly. To add to this, if you don’t want to play what’s optimal, there’s a chance others will give you flack for it.
Or a dungeon they can’t pay someone to blow up while they AFK at the portal.
I played on a med pop server in TBC. GDKP’s were happening all the time.
my tbc was rogues only and we zoomed illidan day 1 too
People want geared, even if “gear” means T1 forever.
Blizzard doesn’t sell T2 or better like private servers do.
Players want something tangible for running MC yet again when they don’t need a dang thing. Players will not do it because they are nice.
GDKP came as a market-based response.
If you have GDKP but won’t do a “fun run” MC/Only/BWL/etc, look in the mirror. Point to that mirror and say, “You are the problem!” I bet you’ll be shocked as to who you have pointed to.
Lvl 58 boost will ruin classic even more
Day 3 or 4 of the 1st week is quite likely. It won’t just be streamers though.
That is the spirit of Vanilla- people have completely forgotten the original game and are looking back with rose tints. Vanilla indeed was about community and making a name for yourself- but people have forgotten how they did it. It was always about stepping over others, players constantly would join minor guilds, gear up then leave for better guilds which would often kill months of funneling loot to players like tanks when they’d just abandon ship.
STV ganking was the norm for the pvp realm, high levels camping lowbies, etc…
The spirit of classic/vanilla was always about there being a class separation- those who raided, and those who are worthless trash. Now, you can buy your way with real money into the upper class, but even gold buying was a major thing in Vanilla.
It never was welcoming, it never was alt friendly, it was never for casuals- if you want that sort of casual garbage go play retail, you clearly don’t belong here.
So it may have existed… But it’s probably safe to say that it wasn’t nearly as common now.
Not sure why anyone would have expected things to be the same as it was before… it was never going to end up that way
Asking a real life friend for help and he can’t even play because his character was raid buffed. Yes, it is a problem.
I can’t even remember playing vanilla when the elite guilds on my server, Arthas, < SECURITY> < Ret> etc… raid logged for world buffs. Playing since 2005 and the first I’d ever heard about raid logging was in 2020, and yet somehow we survived through AQ and Naxx. But honestly, Im sure they’re going to find a way with BC to suck the fun out of it like that.
Part of the reason you see so many GDKP raids at the moment, is that everyone has completed all the content, and there just isn’t much reason for most people to go back to MC, BWL, ZG, or AQ20/40, and GDKP gives them a reason. While I can’t say for every server, most if not all the guilds I am aware of ran current content using a system other than GDKP, and most of the GDKP runs older content that are essentially on farm, that said on my server its also pretty easy to find SR pugs.
So while yes, until TBC comes out raiding could be challenging especially for new players, once TBC is out, it should be possible to find a guild that is looking to raid, that uses systems other than GDKP. That said, if you wait or don’t make it to the raids until everyone has completed the content and is bored with it, it can be more challenging then.
If you think “Raid Logging” has anything to do with world buffs you’re confused. People raid log all the time not just for world buffs.
It sounds like you’re upset because someone wouldn’t carry you because they didn’t want to waste their world buffs. That sounds like your problem not a problem with WBs.
raid logging was always around, usually late into a patch. This just brings up the topic of F R E S H.
Every single classic private server saw this cycle, all the hype for a new release for a server, mass amounts of people leveling, doing the pvp grind.
Then AQ launches, people start to complain that the game is dead, the devs are corrupt, there’s nothing to do, people are too elitist. Then they begin to demand F R E S H, because this time it’ll be better, maybe next time I can be rank 14 scarab lord master. Naxx hits and the server is lower in pop, you have the handful of mega guilds who run it, then log off.
New server release, repeat the cycle until the heat death of the universe.
so sue me, i use raid logging and logging for world buffs interchangably.
If that’s why it sounds like I’m “upset” then either you’re quick to anger because that’s how you would respond to your real life friend not being able to play with you or you’re really bad at understanding what you just read. Based on that response, I really could you see blowing up at your friend because he couldn’t “carry you”, but then again, that also sounds like you’ve never played with a real life friend.
I have a priest that I got to 60 in 4 days 18 hours /played time and I’ve already done two PUG ZG runs on Whitemane horde side, and I literally haven’t played a priest since like 2005, lol
You’re too kind to assume he has any real life friends.
Although you have pointed out many facts of the state of classic, I fear that with the ‘some changes,’ we will have a worse experience in TBC. The changes they are making are going to destroy economies and the transfers will destroy servers.
Oh that already happened 15 years ago. That would be a “no change”. lol. There’s a reason why me thinking of TBC will forever have a stain on it.
TBC shattered WoW as we knew it, or rather as the raiding community knew it, forever.