i mean… we’re in a land where people are supposed to be dead. Makes it odd for the forsaken and the DKs
I mean… draenei might be ageless, but you ain’t immortal. There’s this one road in Outlands that proves that pretty well.
Aren’t Lightforged Draenei still mortal? I thought they simply had a very long lifespan. Also, mortal just means that you’re able to die. This doesn’t mean it has to be a death by old age, it can be by any means.
So, while it sounds strange for Forsaken to be called mortal, we are technically.
They’re talking to you behind the keyboard.
It’s sarcasm, hehehe
How are we able to even survive there? Certainly there’s no air. Why would there be air? Shouldnt it be fatally cold or hot depending on where you are? The afterlife is ethereal and we are corporeal. We should instantly die as soon as we crash land in the Maw. It’s like jumping into space in a bathing suit.
1 Like
Unless you’re a Death Knight or Undead, then “Living mortal” sounds pretty much on point for describing someone who is walking around in the afterlife still alive.
I think where the confusion comes in is that sentient undead, such as the Forsaken & Death Knights, still have their souls.
Just because your body is undead does not make you an immortal, the undead vessel their soul rides can still be destroyed. Thus they are ‘living mortals’ compared to the denizens of the Shadowlands.
1 Like
Well now. I got here as quick as I could when you asked. Som and me have been kind of busy at Haven, what with us adopting that young redhead Worgen and Shimeji running off to the Shadowlands.
Why, we were even gonna do a joint thread called ”Som and Shortround Present - Pilgrims Bounty Table” but we ran outta time. But at least we didn’t run out of ale!
But I’m settling into things with our abilities changing and whatnot, our Warrior’s field ops guide had some minor changes this time, but nothin too weird.
I did have time to get my beard re-styled (and it’s even more flaming red than it used to be!) a few weeks ago. I’ve eh… been missing our talks when you braid my beard 
Nobody else gets to touch it, mind.
Maybe I’ll post a bit more. Som can conjure up these moving pictures with his “trust” magic, but I can tell he gets tired.
/sets out a few coffees and waits patiently for Applebear 
1 Like
I have to keep correcting them, and explain that I died.
Yeah, but the thing about dead people? The key fact about dead people? They don’t walk around telling people that they’re dead. So you’re not properly all the way dead, like just about everyone else in the Shadowlands.
Maybe an unliving immortal…
I thought I was the only one. I had a feeling they were saying Maw Walker but I don’t care, it sounds like I’m a Mall Walker. It’s funny because when coming up with fantasy names, I generally give them a “what does it sound like” test (because someone is bound to stumble on it, it’s a direct reaction to players if anything) and that doesn’t appear to have occurred here.
1 Like
Bolvar wanted to make some new friends.
Everybody in Ardenweald has developed amnesia! (I live here you weirdos! I even captain your guard!) But yes calling me a “mortal” does get odd and old real fast…
Plus everything being solid suggests the Shadow Lands realms collectively are just a separate plane of existence which can just be reached by merely having to open a portal… not a realm purely of spiritual or essential matter… a solid after life you can die in yay! 
An interesting theory in materialism is that there is no such thing as solid matter, only higher and lower forms of energy density. As living mortals traveling to the realm of the Dead, we aren’t actually touching matter the way we do on Azeroth.
Instead it is much more likely that our energy density was altered to match those of the Shadowlands when we crossed through the portal. We haven’t died, we are not souls after all, though what we perceive as our physical form has likely been altered to a higher density output, thus allowing us to interact with the Shadowlands in a manner we are more accustom to.
An even more interesting theory is that because our energy density is so much more different from those of the Shadowlands, what we see, touch, hear, smell, and taste is only an approximation of the true Shadowlands.
In other words, we are attending a grand masquerade of death wherein everyone is wearing a costume and we observe only a facade of the true realm.
3 Likes
Hmmm true, technically in the study of physics especially quantum and atomic physics the term “solid” matter is misleading at best anyways… technically nothing we touch is truly “solid” since Electron clouds which make up 90% of an object’s volume and density are practically non existent with no real mass and a chaotic well…cloud.
2 Likes
I think probably to Shadowlands inhabitants, “mortal” is probably shorthand for “driving a meat-puppet”, regardless of if said individual is immortal in the sense of not dying from old age or is undead.
1 Like
Haven’t we been called “mortals” since vanilla?