Would you bother upgrading from a 12700k to 13700k?

That gets to a deeper level than I really understand. I know that once you get past a certain point on the clock, the power efficiency starts to go down, and the 14900k has a base clock of almost 6GHz, while the 7800x3d usually maxes out at ~4.8GHz all core (at least on my machine)

Apples entry is so good because it’s arm based, and the simplified instruction set of arm needs less power than x86 (Intel/amd). This is also why basically every smartphone runs on some version of the arm instruction set.

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Whoever these engineers are at AMD that developed this tech must be some of the smartest mofos out there. I have to think that intel has some pretty brilliant minds on their payroll since their pockets are practically bottomless, but AMD has managed to accomplish all of this. It’s really impressive. Imagine how cool it would be to just have lunch with those guys sometime and just bask in the presence of their legendary minds.

And AMD is using chiplet tech, which help keep manufacturing costs down and bring yields up.

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The chiplet thing makes you wonder what the limits actually are of how much they can keep packing in there on a single die, how much smaller can they make the chiplets, and at what point will they just start making bigger dies? Current cpu sizes are just tiny little things yet are capable of more than my lil struggling mind can grasp. Imagine a chip twice as big. I wonder if we’ll ever see that in our lifetime.

It was never really the case. Sandy Bridge was their one exception era where they had complete dominance, but it was a manufactured fraudulent victory. It all comes down to a bribery scheme. When the Athlon X2 came out, Intel paid Dell a massive bribe to not buy them. The Athlon X2 was the product of the world’s best minds grinding for 10 years and cost an insane amount of money to engineer. Intel took humanity’s best effort and one of the best CPU products ever produced and dumpstered it. They set the entire human race back. This catastrophic financial loss was the reason AMD FX series wasn’t very good. The fact that AMD recovered from it is very commendable. Intel isn’t just a bad company, they are virtually misanthropic.

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That’s actually fascinating. Wow.

Side note: last year sometime I finally threw away an unused Athlon X2 stock cooler in the box that I’d been holding onto for years, because it’s so hard to throw anything away that I might need some day. It felt bad to toss it. It was so pretty and perfect and mint condition… It just never had the opportunity to be a real cooler and experience life! :weary: :face_holding_back_tears:

It was no small bribe either, it was a 4.3 billion dollar bribe directly to Mike. They ended up paying a $100 million dollar fine over it, which is pennies on what they made off the scheme.

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A movie needs to be made on this. It’s actually really interesting.

It’s a bit of a no-no square area, because they were allowed to get away with it so the economy didn’t collapse. Chips is everything. It was a huge embarrassment for everyone and it was swept under the rug as quickly as possible. I think anyone showing up at Universal with a script is going to get a knock on the door from the NSA lol

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Upgrade your PC case and cooler. OC it to the max. Done.

My experience with 5900X is disappointing. While AMD has “better” performance. Stability isn’t there.

I also got free upgrade from 12900K RMA. Memory controller died. Now on 13900K. As far as stability goes, no complaints.

Also, Intel APO coming to 12th and 13th gen. Yes, World of Warcraft included.
https://wccftech.com/intel-to-bring-game-boosting-apo-optimizations-to-12th-13th-gen-desktop-cpus/

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Wait for the next gen of computers that will start having A.I software and hardware built into them.