If it’s just 200 DPS, then there is no need to change it at all.
So if it was more than 200 dps. Then itd be ok to change it.
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No, it wouldn’t be ok. But at least I would try to empathize this annoying whining about class balance.
You have to consider temporary buffs like trinkets, heroism/bloodlust, power infusion, etc.
PvP is all about burst and getting Heroism on a hasted DoT would mean an extra tick during the 6 second stun.
My response was only to the person saying that the hybrid tax was terrible design.
I think WoW made things fun and interesting by creating a lot of talents, skill, spells etc. The problem is that people get mad when their class isn’t as wanted or whatever.
It’s how we got homogenization of classes. But I digress.
Edit: Regardless, the “hybrid tax” is very basic rpg game play design. It’s about balance. For every pro, there needs to be a con. Like in DnD (which i don’t know a ton about) multi classing and dual classing all come at a price/cost.
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The best argument for including it now is that it was nearly implemented but removed because of bugged scaling that was then resolved with corruption.
Linelo has covered that the dps increase is not significant enough to overtake or challenge the “pure” dps classes.
Linelo has done the work to sim these conditions in PVE and expressed no desire to alter the pvp meta.
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Again, any blues looking into this post should look at ele shaman, as they need more buffs. thank you.
Spriest is C tier according to youtube so no, nothing will be done. Pick a better class
Why dont you make a post detailing how ele shamans should be changed?
Because then you’re going to have to have a discussion about BM hunters, sub rogues, destro locks, frost mages, etc.
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And Prot warriors
No need to flood the forums with each class. The general idea is if they are going to change one class, lets take a look at all of them.
Not really. BM Hunters, frost mages, and sin rogues have other viable dps specs. Shadow priests dont.
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Ok. What change do you propose? Linelo laid out an argument
You could just reroll, or heal. Anyone who wants to play spec X because they like the fantasy, the rotation, etc, isn’t going to be tickled pink that they can go play another spec so telling them to just play a different spec that is going to play and gear differently, which becomes more apparent from WoTLK onwards, isn’t a very good solution for that group of people. I have no problem playing all three of my specs based on whatever is best, but in the same vein as to why you probably scoffed at the suggestion of rerolling or playing a healer you just really like playing a spriest, and if priest had some sort of holy DPS build I doubt you’d be accepting of playing it in lieu of shadow if it was more viable. Honestly the reality is you picked a hybrid class so just like you can argue don’t pick a pure DPS class if you’re not willing to play more than one spec we can just argue that you shouldn’t play a hybrid if you’re not willing to be flexible with your role.
And you have a few classes, like shamans and druids that are ranged versus melee and IME people generally want to play one of those specs because they are either ranged or melee. Elemental is probably the spec in the biggest trouble in this regard, their scaling is garbage in WoTLK to the point where if they aren’t outright not brought they will fade out from Ulduar and on due to Demo locks.
Damage tuning. Just buff some of the lower performing classes a bit.
Can you be more specific? What spell? What kind of buff?
I think y’all need healing stream totem. That’d be real.
Why do you care about the specifics? I’m not a dev. I’m just saying if they are going to buff any single class they need to look at all of the others. Frost mage, BM hunter, sub rogue, ele shaman etc…etc.
I think you are trolling. You are providing no good evidence or arguments