Where do you think classic was born from in general? Literally the whole push came from private server players. Where do you think a large influx of players is coming from?
Except those times you claimed RDF was the reason for player loss (which later was changed to stagnation). That was shown to be incorrect, and you still claimed it to be fact.
I’m aware, I take issue with you acting like you are, I don’t pretend to be anything.
Says who? The minority of people who does not want it, and are by no means forced to used the implemented system?
The use of a more efficient system doesn’t make you have to get to speed, you have the option of not using it. Dragging everyone else to your own preferred cadence does, however, force everyone else to adapt against their will. This isn’t a justified exclusivity argument for status quo.
Break out of your main character syndrome. Your opinion doesn’t outweigh the majority’s for the sole sake of being yours.
Yeah man we a much broader playerbase now.
It’s a fact. We’ve been down this road.
I’m not the one bursting at the seams screeching about how Blizzard got it wrong and is out of touch and is making an awful game because it isn’t holding my hand and letting me avoid talking to big scary other people!
If I thought Blizz were taking the game in an awful direction and sending it toward retail 2.0 I’d stop playing it and play a game that is better suited to my interests. I wouldn’t go to the forums to cry about it.
The reality is most people are fine with some changes to RDF as long as it still can fulfill it’s primary goal which is to facilitate group forming. So no you can’t say that complaints about RDF however silly and not grounded in either the reality of how RDF worked or the current state of classic are simply being dismissed out of hand.
There’s a maaaaassive difference between “facilitate” and “trivialize”.
RDF completely trivializes the group making process. You don’t have to do anything but click a button.
The LFG tool facilitates group making, by organizing the information of players who are looking for a group. I totally agree it needs polish.
No it’s not. You want summoning stones and flying removed from the game. They didn’t and won’t do that. You get one change you like and get so excited you think the devs think just like you. Typical narcissist.
Anything wrong with that? If I could trivialise my commute I would. You act like forming a group is fun activity
Yes we have, and as I pointed out, you ignored the facts. You continue to ignore them. This is how we know you aren’t a logical person, it’s very clear.
You couldn’t be any further from the truth.
Where is your post with all your reasons answering the questions on this OP? I didn’t see it. Can you point me to where you made all your good points?
Or did you just come in here trying to argue with people who don’t share your opinon?
Didn’t you just make a post about how you disagree with blizzards current gear progression?
Yo actually such a perfect comparison, nicely done.
K, but I still play the game. You’re gonna quit because they don’t introduce a single tool.
Miregrim thinks I’m a narcissist T_T
Yeah it’s part of the friction that makes the game fulfilling. It’s also gameified friction that you get to remove by making relationships in the MMO, which is the actual game.
Exactly that’s all that should need to be done when you just want to smash a 5 man and don’t care about your group.
And for content where that actually matters a LFG Tool is great, for 5 mans unless you’re maybe doing an achievement run it doesn’t matter.
Of course ideally both tools should be in the game as they fulfill fundamentally different purposes.
We all know that retail has the qol tool rdf. Your mistake is thinking a tool that increases accessibility is an end in and of it’s self. Accessibility is just a means to an end. If one isn’t interested in the end access to it is meaningless. If blizzard announced they were removing rdf from retail I would complain about it at all. Because I’m not interested in retail. I want greater and easier access to dungeons in vanilla, BC and wrath because I want to play that content. You don’t care because you don’t want to do dungeons very much.
Literally gotta “no u” this one lol.
The graphs you provided clearly show stagnation through Wrath, and slight decline between the end of Wrath and the start of Cata.
This is the 102991287091827091827th post we’ve had on the subject, I’m not gonna rehash every point I’ve made across those just because it’s a community representative asking.
My first post here was “wth is the point of this post. Almost every post here is an opinion piece on RDF”
That’s legit what you’re doing lmao
Yeah, I did. That has what to do with this exactly?
I think the welfare epics are an unnecessary trivialization of the progression process (you know, the core RPG element of the game). You can do the quests in Northrend just fine with Outland quest greens, therefore there’s no reason to add “catch up” mechanics in the form of mindlessly obtained Sunwell-level gear.
That said, yeah, it doesn’t matter. I’m annoyed with one point, but I’m not begging for it to change beyond a single discussion post (that NOBODY else had posted), and I’m not threatening to quit or create lawsuits over it!
So accessibility is a means to an end, and it’s not worth having if you don’t like the end, but even when you like the end, the absence of the “accessibility” makes the end not worth it?
Sounds like you don’t actually like WoW on the whole.
I don’t care how much the group making process is trivialized. I want to play the content of the game. Not spend time looking for people to play the content. Finding a group often takes longer than doing the content you found the group for. That’s not a fun game.
Want to see a good indicator without having to do a poll on the subject is?
Look at the ratio of likes on comments comparing the likes to the good arguments FOR RDF and those against or do not want RDF …
That shows the true nature and opinion of the player base and now take that to all the threads on RDF … it is staggering how many are PRO RDF compared to Anti-RDF…
I disagree and so does Blizzard.
Ok. I do.
Not in my experience.
Respectfully disagree!
Absolutely. If there’s a job I really like with good pay I might drive two hours to that job. But I wouldn’t drive 4 hours. Accessibility is always a consideration no matter how good the end goal is.