Hes an LFR hero.
Retail is awful. You need a better argument. I only play classic. All I know is classic. Kungen would laugh at you too, as he acknowledges world buffs have always been a cheesy meta and his guild never got them either.
Besides, no one here is arguing about changing era. This is season of discovery.
And you still have no logical argument against LFR. But keep trying. Maybe you’ll come up with something.
Kungen is a washed up has been who wasn’t very good back then either. His “accomplishments” since wrath make that clear. Sorry. Weird person to go to.
If you exclusively play vanilla prob would have picked up a guild by now buddy. Weird!
This is CLASSIC:Season of Discovery. Please see Diablo seasons to get an idea of how they work! Today you have been reminded.
LFR is fine.
It’s a system for people who aren’t good or can’t commit to a raid who want to see the story of the raid
Maybe you don’t know what LFR is in retail? It’s basically a story mode raid.
It doesn’t even fully unlock right away. The raids for LFR unlock in wings.
For example say the newest raid is 12 bosses, the new raid launches and the first 3 bosses of that raid are unlocked in LFR.
A few weeks later another 3, until finally a few months later all the bosses are unlocked.
It drops much lower ilvl and unlocks in wings weeks apart.
It isn’t exactly what you think it is most likely.
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I mean that’s cute, but the content is extremely easy. And grabbing a group real quick should be streamlined. But whatever helps you feel good about yourself. Kek
That’s not what LFR is though
If anything we should have a system where we can post groups like WOTLK had in classic prior to rdf being added.
You push a button you can start your raid or list your raid people can click on it and apply to your raid
It’s basically what retail has for mythic+
What’s being asked for is an automated group making system for the raid. The end. Call it Bob for all I care.
Yeah you think you do but you don’t.
They would literally have to change the way lockouts work.
The amount of work involved to get this up and running just wouldn’t be worth it for a season
“I am unable to put a group together or find a guild as I lack basic social skills. Blizzard please put me in a que with 2 “healers”, 1 “tank” and 3 afk dps. Two of which don’t speak english.”
Sick dude.
Got it, so no argument against a streamlined group making method. Well I’ll keep waiting. Maybe somebody will come up with something substantive.
World of quecraft works because of stacks of determination and nerfed bosses. Do you want both of those?
No fluff, yes or no.
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If you were in a top 50 guild in Vanilla I’d like to hear how you had all that time to get all the buffs AND prog on top of that. I’d also like to hear your raiding schedule and which raids you did at what patch.
Anyone who did anything at patch in Vanilla knows that the real enemy was time. There was no way in hell that getting world buffs was a regular thing week in a week out. Some guilds used it to clear Naxx eventually here and there, but think that WB usage was a common thing? Lol.
These raids are very easy. There’s no need to nerf the raid or the loot. Any random pugs can do fine. I mean if it’s hard for you, I’m not knocking that. Everyone has their own ability. I’m sure you’re good at other things.
Your comprehension skills are on par with the likes of twitch political commentators like Hasan Piker. You, either through your own arrogance or sheer stupidity continue to misunderstand what I said. As soon as “go to retail” becomes your sole argument it becomes apparent that you are either dealing with a complete moron or a troll. Have a nice life, and I’ll enjoy playing all the way to 60 and beyond.
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I’m going off memory from 20 years ago but sure.
We raided Mon,wed,Fri,Sat if we needed we also did Sunday if we needed to prog.
We wouldn’t get all world buffs and not everyone would do it we typically just got Ony and like I said this started in Bwl
Dark Iron wasn’t an original server and i dont recal how they handled content unlocks back then but we were by far the best guild on the server.
We ended our prog half way thru Naxx b cause Tbc was announced and like most saw no reason to continue prog.
Everlasting Vendetta on alliance Dark Iron.
Fluff. Fluff. Fluff.
Yes. Or No.
Unlikely, I’ll be there fully buffed ready to tell tourists where to go should you manage though!
fwiw, when i say prog i’m not talking about clearing MC at patch 1.6+. I’m talking about at patch raiding. For those who don’t know, even when we had BWL on farm, MC took 2-2.5 hours still. Class reworks were still in their infancy. There was enough time for 2 raid tiers tops. When AQ dropped, we took MC completely off our schedule. A world buff is what an hour? Raid Logging wasn’t an option.
I was on Mannoroth. 7/10 times we’d lose the fight at the raid instance to alliance and we’d have to corpse hop our way in. I think there’s a guild that’s still around from my time and server. vodka? What’s the purpose of a WB if you’re going to lose it.
If you guys were doing Ony and had the time and energy to do so, then kudos. But WBs being a regular thing in general is just lol.
I understood what you meant.
I just don’t recall the patches that we did things I know it was current.
But like I said dark iron was not an original server it was released later.
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I do.
Patch 1.4 > when I started raiding
Almost no boofin. But tbf almost everyone was farming D1 as prebis, fury wasn’t a spec, mages had to talent into evocate and druids into innervate. Times were hard, most try hard thing you did was level alch and herb because lotus was bop. Too few ony kills in her pre-nerf state to get a boof on the reg.
1.6 and 2 hour vael
Classes being such dog water during our prog we would kill razor with mc on our previous two nights since MC took forever.
We then like most guilds would prog two hours of vael and call it for the week. By week 4 everyone was showing up buffed. There wasn’t exactly a cadre of people grefing near ubrs on illy and if you rolled in together most made it if not all. Would never have killed vael in that patch without it. Devs have acknowledged this was intent for boofs to begin with. Little extra push.
1.7.
Zg buff.
Everyone had it every raid tell it got nerfed in 1.10 or .11 whateverit was. Everyone did zg, in months even pugs could clear half of it. Most raiding guilds were zg only and maybe did Ghennas.
Past this point buffs became far, far more common. At least on the big boys like illy, Arthas or mal ganis.