Wings of Liberty (Avenging Leap) NEW ON PTR

This literally says for Ret spec… or maybe taunt is reset for ret spec? which is wierd. exciting, but unlikely. Probably an additonal node thats going toscrew with something else.

it says ret spec because it was copy pasted from warrior heroic leap id. prot warrior is the 3rd spec of the class. ret is the 3rd spec of the class. hence why it says “ret” resets the cd of taunt"

coding is really messy and literal unless you tell it to not be literal

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Crossing fingers for the rets out there that this makes it through, got a good name, a good effect, addresses key issues.

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Niche and horrible??? How?

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I have a horrible feeling that this won’t make it to even the ptr build

Also why reset taunt? I wonder if this is just the devs getting a dig in at us

I would be stunned. They said we wont gain the mobility of rogues, this would put us fairly close 30 second vs 45 second CD. Unless Blizzard was trying to set expectations very low to under promise and over deliver.

I will be surprised if much of the first data mined talents made it to live.

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No matter what they do, there will be a poster feigning outrage and calling it a “slap in the face”.

Dealing with players must be an absolute beating.

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Beating given, never received, apparently. Dev minds must be immune to any strikes of/by community stupidity.

…Sadly, ours are immune to theirs.

So who’s going to name their paladin into some azerothian derivative of Michael Jordan?

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Even assuming this is a correct datamine and does go through into a build the cd is concerning, it lines up too well with Divine Steed that I would not be surprised if it was either a) a choice node between the two or b) in the Ret tree replacing Divine Steed.

If either is the case it wouldn’t address any of the issues for PvE. Also what is the deal with paladin just getting cheap imitations, even aside from talent interactions it’s just shorter distance Heroic Leap whilst not bringing anything extra to justify it still having the same cd.

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Please let this be for prot as well I wanna leap into a pack of mobs and go crazy.

As for steed just get rid of it its trash and no one likes it.

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So, tons and tons and loads and loads of people have been gnashing their teeth about how awesome heroic leap is and asking why we can’t have something like heroic leap….

And now people are upset that paladins may get heroic leap.

This is the only hotkey that would please most (not all).

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If I am being honest, I actually hope this IS on a choice node alongside Divine Steed so that all Paladin specs can use Wings of Liberty if they choose.

Dungeon tanking as Protection would be more fun and the synergy of instantly gaining max value of Holy mastery could be a very interesting mechanic.

It seems we are likely getting a speed boost/slow tied to judgement and that will be an overall slight improvement to our mobility. We may get lucky here and Hand of Hinderance can be removed in place of this to cut out an additional button to press.

It is still very early. While it looks like Wings of Liberty is a copy of Heroic Leap for now, (which I am all in for) surely it is going to have a tie in with consecration. This will likely mean you can play smart with our leap to snare enemies or to free allies of their snares. This is enough to give it its own functionality.

Plus, you already know the Avenging Wrath wing animation that is going to happen when we leap will be epic!

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Yes I am crossing my fingers that this is for prot

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steed is way better than alot of you give it credit for. its very unlikely leap will make it out of datamine phase. if it does it, it will probably be changed to do something else cause right now its using a copy paste of heroic leap as a placeholder.

it also might be for prot

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To high movement for what we need, balanced against too long of a cd.
Still can be slowed and rooted.

I disagree.

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heroic leap copy is 45 seconds cd. you are still slowed after you use it.

Yeah but I still covered the distance instantly instead of running it down while slowed.

If it is a choice between this and Steed I truly feel it’s not even close…
The feeling we get while running and being slowed on the horse is one of the worst thing I personally felt about the class.

I don’t care about still being slow upon arrival with the leap if the alternative to the jump would have been to run for 4-5 sec on the horse to get to the same place.
I don’t see how it’s even remotely close.

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if we’re talking about strictly pvp. thenya your right. i just hope it makes it to live. but im being realistic for ever datamined spell.

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That’s fair. Could be scraped.

I don’t know in which scenario in PVE you would want to take 4-5 sec to get where you want instead of just leap there.

At least the choice would mean we could better deal with Razageth push back on her second phase and other similar mechanic in the future.

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