"I for one, was taught to stand up for something if it’s wrong.
The XPoff exploit is wrong and here I stand."
The XPoff exploit is absolutely wrong. They shouldn’t need to exploit to get into a random, unranked bg. Blizz should put minimal effort into balancing absurdly OP specs, and just let players play as they want. Seems like an incredibly simple solution
If it takes you hours to grind cata engineering you’re doing it wrong. You could learn the recipe for spinal healing injector by what 3 crafts into engineering . Were talking 20 min of ore farming. You dont have 20 min to invest in a huge self heal that scales with level ? Maybe you deserve that one shot
Last year I spent 4 hours rerolling a druid over and over again just to rush through the WoD intro and go straight for the Staff of the Mad Bramble King. I spent 4 hours getting ONE piece of gear. “Put some effort into some gear” won’t put you on the same level as twinks. There are a few things that could be happening here…
You’re a twink and you’re being disingenuous
You’re a twink hunter and put minimal effort into your gear
You’ve never twinked before
The simple solution would be stat templates for all lower-level PvP.
You still get 1-shot even with a glorified health potion. Spinal injector doesn’t offer any form of added defense.
I literally said Blizz should put minimal effort into balancing absurdly OP specs… that should rule out the possibility of me being a hunter lol
While I’m not opposed to stat templates, I think it’s boring. At that point the people who abuse gear will just turn to OP specs again.
In no way am I fighting for perfect balance, nor am I trying to come off that way. I’m just fine with accepting that low level BGs are going to be somewhat unbalanced, and that players shouldn’t be punished for messing around with old gear. This is why I always suggest adding in a Korraks Revenge style BG open to all levels. It lets people play old content and mess around with fun enchants (not to mention allow max levels from enjoying it also).
In a way it puts all the unbalanced chaos into one area, while still allowing a queueable system. If something like this was implemented I feel like you could put stricter rules on normal BGs and both sides would be more pleased than with the current system
The tooltips have been incorrect for a while now. Pretty much ever since they completely split up how the skills level up.
You can go straight to the cataclysm engineering trainer. The healing injector is taught really early on. Even if it required max cataclysm engineering (which it doesn’t), that would only be level 75
You will get owned by people who turn xp off on a 50 and farm gear and then transfer to a none SL account.
Simple solution is to just normalize all gear in bgs under 50.
I would also like to see an item added you could buy with honor to upgrade any piece of gear you have to your current level. That could be in a future xpac.
That way you could keep your gear better updated and weave in and out of dungeons easier while pvp leveling.
with the changes they are making to gear next xpac all the need to do is nerf gems and the difference between a lvler and twink will be really small. Some of the pictures I have seen from the beta for lvling gear changes is crazy lol.
Just for an example a current lvl 20 blackout truncehon gives 3 agility/str 2 sockets and a 49 haste proc
In df it gives 1 agi/str two sockets and 17 haste on proc. weapon damage is now 3-5 instead of 8-10
I have seen pictures of items being squished so hard they are now negative stats lol.
i meant dont buy dragonflight. pointing out it will work the same as 50 on bfa capped account does currently.
im one of those sl transfer 50 playing twinks on another toon and im planning on doing the same thing at 60 next xpac. working on my 3rd 60 focusing on getting pve trinkets and at least max honor gear.
hopefully something cool comes in prepatch i cant wait!
Eh, I’m not totally opposed to this suggestion (like I said above), but it’s just so boring imo. It’s lame seeing gear not really matter in a MMORPG, especially when it still won’t be perfectly balanced since certain specs will always be OP
I’d rather see more restrictions on random BGs, and a Korraks Revenge style BG added. Let players enjoy cool pieces of gear
Well PvP and BGs started out by not giving any experience at all… so there is definitely some precedence to the contrary to this also. I just find myself rolling my eyes someone has to say things like “This is how the game is supposed to be played.” I play a MMORPG, so I enjoy seeing different ways to play the game.
Once again, you are missing the fact that your “fix” is a band-aid that doesn’t address the actual problem, and it just makes the game a little more boring for a subset of players who are not the problem.
Generally speaking, there are two reasons people play with xpoff… 1. They will do whatever they can to get an advantage over other players… and 2. They enjoy old content, unique gear, and messing around with different types of builds.
Your “fix” basically ruins the game for group 2, while does absolutely nothing to address the fact that those who want any advantage necessary will just move onto whatever the next OP thing is. They’ll continue to one shot and we will be right back here describing more ways Blizz can restrict playstyles in a MMORPG
Players who wanted to remain in the same bracket forever could do so. They were allowed to try all their different builds and get the best possible gear as you stated.
It was an xpoff bracket that allowed all of this.
The catch ? You would have to face other players who were doing the same thing.
Guess what ? Nobody showed up.
Twinks and xpoff players don’t want to fight players with similar builds and damage abilities.
They want to have an advantage. They want to one shot their enemies.
This leads to the xpoff work around that players are using now.
They could just join the other xpoff 20-29 bracket. But they don’t for the reasons stated above.
So either turn off XP for everyone ( which is a good idea IMO ) or fix the xpoff exploit and be done with it.
I mean, you pretty much just ignored my entire comment to add more “xpoff bad” hot takes lol.
I even said there are people in the xpoff community that want any advantage they can get. No one is denying that. I’m telling you your fix doesn’t stop those players from using the next advantage (which is almost always just going to be OP specs). Instead, your “fix” just forces more restrictions on players who want to experiment/enjoy old gear.
“Nobody showed up.”
“Twinks and xpoff players don’t want to fight players with similar builds and damage abilities.”
When Blizz resplit the xpoff queue those players were spread over way more brackets because they could play whichever they enjoyed more. This resulted in much slower queues (no queue pops in some brackets). Many people turned back to wargames.
I have no doubt many people left since they didn’t have the upperhand anymore, but tons also left since Blizz removed the accessibility of simply queueing in whatever bracket and whenever you wanted. It’s not exactly hard to understand why someone might not want to put in that much effort into playing an unranked BG lol
So, are you going to address any of the points I brought up, or are you simply unable to move past blanket statements and over-exaggerations because you don’t like people who play the game differently than you?
