The problem with people “hating leveling” is they think they have an endless end game content utopia ahead of them…
Problem is the folks who are going to bum rush their way to end game, quickly get into heroic then mythic dungeons, push keys as much as they can, and do whatever daily grinds exist to level their covenant.
Come week 3 or so, they’ll already have consumed the bulk of the new content besides whatever trickle is left that convenants can offer and be eager for more. Look at how poorly 8.3 content was received. It was fun for most for the first few weeks then it became a hellish chore one did for their vision run(s) to get their cloak leveled for the week where missing a day literally felt bad because you couldn’t make the lost currency back up…yet when you get a weekly cap and ways to farm it, players show they’ll burn through that cap ASAP.
This playerbase can’t help themselves. It isn’t Blizzard’s fault even but they’re the ones stuck trying to make the game last for as long as possible for as many as possible.
In terms of plot?
No. There’s absolutely no way Blizzard fixes the current plot because the ongoing mystery box is just stupid. Mysteries are hard to write on a good day and the trend JJ Abrams started seems to ignore the fact that JJ Abrams has never actually made a good product besides the Star Trek reboot, which doesn’t have the mystery box subplot.
I feel that blizzard has had to change tactics to an extent to keep the game running. Unfortunately, as sad as it is, wow no longer sustains itself on subscriptions alone anymore. A ton of money comes from the cash shop now, paid boosts, character boosts etc. Warlord’s of draenor did well cash wise, just not good subcription wise. This is a problem on the playerbase and the devs though. I feel that wow is a cash cow now. Wow is just built to make money. It is still built for fun to, don’t get me wrong, but wow has to make money. If wow don’t make money, then wow servers go to the shadowlands afterlife and die and most likely never come back. As i have sad, it seems impossible to satisfy the current generation of players these days.
I mean legion and pandaria were really good personally. I played the heck out of those, but wow doesn’t thrive on the sub count as much as it used to. It doesn’t always need the players playing, just the cash shop being utilized. Most of warcraft money comes from the cash shop now. That doesn’t mean shadowlands can’t be successful in the cash shop and be succesful with the sub count, but i think it will have a ton of subs if blizzard plays the cards correctly. I do not expect shadowlands to be perfect, but knowing me, ill be subbed. Hopefully it will attract a majority of others also.
I do blame Blizzard. It used to be a casual could do their thing, keep themselves busy by playing their desired level of content on multiple characters. That’s not a thing anymore, because devs now have “raid loggers who play only one character, and run out of content and unsub” as the target demographic.
it’s already better than bfa, cause gear is just gear (boring and same, but it’s still better than azerites and corruptions)
So…what did you do before all of that? To say there’s nothing to do at endgame is just false, because bfa had everything that we’ve always had at endgame and more.
Certainly nothing of interest for many people. I’ve seen people say that island expeditions are “casual content”, using the bizarre logic that “It’s not good enough for me, but casuals should be grateful we let them spam islands.”
After I reached max level in wod, I geared up and did PvP on all my characters for the rest of the expansion. That’s no longer a thing, very different from the past. I miss PvP, but it’s utter trash in BfA, unless you’re one of the mythic raider/golden children who are the designated winners, and those of us who used to spam bgs for fun are your designated victims.
Subjective I guess. But we can be excited in regards to the starting zone already. Very enjoyable.
Covenant abilities feel good too especially when they turn around a weakness of your class. Hate to say it but I am enjoying Night Fae a lot more than I imagined I would and Venthyr less on the Beta. Haven’t crafted legendaries yet 
just being lazy with them.
Hmm, lets see. What seems like smaller zones than ever, multiple layers of add on temporary powers piled up like a playing card castle just waiting to fall over, the Maw (which looks about as ugly a zone as I’ve ever seen in the game) and various apparent forms of grind for one thing or another.
Will it be worse? Will it be better? Time will tell I guess but the direction is taking is starting to feel, for me, that my time playing WoW is slowly winding down. Since I started in Wrath, I’ve seen a lot of changes, and many of them not for the better. It just seems that rather than deep and meaningful content, they create unstable systems that last an expansion and then vanish, and repetitive grinding to gain things that end up being forgotten.
I never forgot my guild’s first win against Arthas in ICC. I struggle to even remember what the end raid fights were like over the last few expansions.
I really hope that it’ll be better than bfa
It’s too early to tell until the systems are on live servers and we see just how bad the grind actually is. We have an IDEA right now on beta, but how this stuff functions when I can’t just buy full sets of gear and conduits and legendaries and have to dedicate actual time into unlocking them is going to tell the whole story.
If they get the currency tuning wrong so the game becomes a 7 day a week grindfest to keep up with the unemployed turbonerds when all you want to do is raid, or the conduits are too annoying to get and upgrade, or they start nerfing/buffing random Covenants a month post-launch, the game is honestly going to be in trouble.
It PLAYS fine. Once you figure out your covenant of choice (or the one you’re forced into), the rest kinda flows naturally. It all functions (kinda). It’s a fun game to play. Torghast is good.
But they simply still have the problem of trusting the content to stand by itself. They tack on timesinks to make sure you don’t acquire your 9.0-9.1 power without grinding for it.
No it will be no bettter. i play enhance and nothing is fixed give us old abilities back but crap damage, same old crappy probs in pvp, junk compared to other melee. still squishy like always. low representation in pvp is funny after all these yrs.
fix my toon and actually leave it alone please cause class balancing is darn slow that if your spec is junk at launch might as well plan maybe getting fixed at last patch.
old game and you still act like its vanilla and have no idea whats going on. i thought after yrs on the job things were supposed to get better? why do i deal with the same problems expansion after expansion?
the betA is broke still so lots of problems, lots of stuff still broken so, everyone only whining cause they know it ain’t ready and how long will the wait be for it to be good? how can i feel sl is going to be good cause you ain’t fixing issues with classes which is the real fun of wow.
I’ll reserve judgment. That being said im done with bfa.