More thought given to the facts than Danuser has given to the “story” of Shadowlands.
Just lame retired tropes. Borrowing from Sargeras and Metzen writing. N’zoth portrayed that and now the Jailer. It’s just lame and god awful.
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but what if… N’zoth (through his Il’Gynoth minion), Sargeras and the jailer all are seeing the same “thing” approach?
some of these quotes appear to mention Shadowlands storyline. Consider 9.2 storyline and the Anduin 3-phase fight among cinematics and other things…
- The [boy-king] serves at the master’s table. Three lies will he offer you.
- Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.
- Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.
- At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming.
- From the earth, he draws strength. Our earth. Our strength.
- Its surface blazes bright, masking shadows below.
Those whispers are just things they threw out there and connected when convenient.
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It’s possible N’zoth and Zovaal saw the same thing, but Sargeras was definitely just trying to stop old gods from corrupting a world soul.
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I just noticed something.
If the Old Gods have a master, who is it?
And it’s Zovaal…
Then how does that even work?
Also…?
Does / did Zovaal view anyone as his master? It’s not like we’ve been told…
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Didnt you see Azeroth’s advanced tech? I feel the Jailor wanted to use Azeroth to mine Bitcoin, its the only motive that makes sense.
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Because the Nathrezim claimed that the Void Lords(agents of the Indistinct Shadow) would create a nightmarish world of Torment everywhere just so that Sargeras would target the Void Lords alongside the Light and Life as a test run for a greater army.
Unfortunately as N’Zoth stated: “The Light has struck a bargain with the enemy of all.” and as Il’gynoth has stated: “The Vassal of Life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green.”
Once all of that happened Denathrius immediately resorted to aiding Zovaal’s plan as his own plan to use the Shadow as a training target for a united Army of Cosmic Forces ultimately led to the Light and Life siding with the true Darkness: The True Void…
Sargeras of course decided to do exactly what the True Void itself wanted: wipe out all of existence! If the True Void showed up in front of Sargeras and explained it’s true nature I’m sure Sargeras only knowing of the Shadow being a Cosmic Force bringing Torment(instigated by the Nathrezim to make them a training target) would readily side with the True Void just so that he can erase everything!
Sargeras, the Light and Life have all fallen into the schemes of the True Void with those seeking to stop the True Void(I.E. the Nathrezim, Void Lords and Zovaal) shooting themselves in the foot out of recklessness and not thinking out the consequences of their actions!
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we need a loremaster to keep track of this storyline… with flowcharts… and graphs… many graphs.
9.2 ending in a multiverse cliffhanger and 10.0 being a “rescue kitty from three” would be hilarious.
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The only question I have is this… at the end of the Jailer cinematic, the hole above ice crown closed. Does this mean we are now stuck in the Shadowlands?
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Blizzard is not known for thinking ahead in game.
Especially when it comes to lore and story points.
I’m sure more handwavium will explain it somehow.
Just like the utterly nonsense way that Varian showed up to help Anduin.
At least Saurfang being there makes sense. Jailer kill raid cinematic.
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The Portals still remain according to Danuser. The Death Knights of the Ebon Blade will get to choose who comes and goes to the Shadowlands.
Big Shots and useful Businessmen can just waltz in when needed yet ordinary civilians aren’t permitted through the Portals.
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But would the portals still remain if the rift to the shadowlands closed? I don’t think so.
It wouldn’t make sense based on the lore that was told at the beginning.
They had the opportunity to actually do some good writing. We could have gone looking for Varian in the shadowlands so we could get his help with Anduin. Instead, they had this wacky FFXIV Heavensward scene that didn’t really make sense. Either Varian entered the shadowlands and was there, or his soul was completely destroyed by the fel. Having some spirit show up out of nowhere doesn’t hold water. 
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There’s a problem, thiks story is being written by the mental equivalent of a 3 year old so linking plots together will never work. They have hyped up void lords SO MUCH that anything less than the entire planet shattering will make it all for nothing.
Void lords will be kamehameha’d to death just like N’zoth, this company can’t even muster a wet fart anymore to try and make you care about anything.
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no… not really.
the draenei spaceship will save us.
unless… UNLESS… remember the statues of Stormwind representing the heroes who closed the Dark Portal from the other side? what if we now begin and expansion-long voyage home?
Druids and dk’s laugh as they go sorry (but not sorry) all you other mall walkers but see you suckers.
and poof they go.
What were his motives? It depends on when you drop into the plot.
- He wants to escape from the Maw.
- He wants to capture Korthia.
- He wants to capture and dominate various characters (he’s kinky that way).
- He wants to be powerful.
- He wants to get the Covenant leaders’ gems as his own gear is lacking.
- He wants to get to Zerith Mortis to get something from the Sepulcher. (Which is an odd name if you think about it, because a sepulcher is basically part of a graveyard where you inter bodies, like a tomb.)
- He wants to destroy reality and dominate everyone (although how you can do that if everything is destroyed was not really made clear).
- He wants to…warn us that if we think he’s bad, just wait till yous all see the Currently Unknown Adversary or Adversaries.
So what were his motives? Bagged if I know. Because it is apparently the right way to write the story of warcraft to be (a) illogical, (b) misleading and (c) rather badly written because nobody with any writing skill creates a storyline which springsa completely untelegraphed ultimate power and expects it to actually work.
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Please… NOOOOOO! But I wouldn’t put it past them for us to make some journey someplace on that spaceship.
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Since he’s a robot/creation of something, it’s more of a directive than a motive really.
I’m fine with the fact that he was a construct to be honest, that had potential… but there should have been some sort of scooby doo villain reveal (someone had created him with good intentions before the rest of the eternal ones came to be & was now saved by the heroes of azeroth defeating their out of control creation type deal - my pick would have been the primus but I digress).
Daddy D, Winter Queen, Primus… all constructs created by the first ones, then? And only the 1st arbiter went offside? Glad there is so much potential to revisit this story & answer some questions. COUGH nope COUGH
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just think of all the strange alien worlds we can meet along the way.
the dirt in this world is like none we’ve ever seen before.
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