Yeah it’s always been strange to me. Priests channel the light and void (because they are from the same source) and Paladins are vessels of the light and the Nelf culture is more or less built up around the Light of Elune so… I’m boggled why they don’t have it, except for the fact before WoW was launched, Nelves were savage forest dwellers and more or less thought “civilisation” was stupid. I can only think their attitude might have changed since they were given a bounce (ugh) and a city on a giant tree.
Undead use shadow magic as priests, but it would be strange to just let them use one spec. They using holy magic is more of a gameplay necessity.
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Do you actually follow the lore, honest question? Your arguments are not based on lore, in fact, it sounds more like you simply have an idea of how you’d like it to be and are not afraid to point to lore that actually contradicts what you are saying
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Doing the Priest Class Hall, the one undead able to use the Light had to deal with a LOT of physical pain over it. It was heartbreaking, I just can’t imagine. It’s an exception rather than the rule, “lore” wise. (I hate the term lore friendly, can players even be “lore friendly” since nothing we do is canon anyway?)
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Is everyone forgetting Calia?! What about Alonsus Faol and Archbishop Benedictus both were human and became undead priests and I am pretty sure both wield the light as undead priests not only shadow
As it should be. I guess the light is purging the fel that made him undead. If I’m not mistaken Calia Menethil is a new form of undead that can use holy power. Maybe they could use that as a point to introduce undead shamans.
And Chi is Spirit.
Spirit energy, also called Spirit of Life or Spirit of the Wilds [2][3], and referred to as Chi by monks and pandaren,[4] is the fifth element,[5][6] the inner energy[7] inside all living beings.[8][9] It is the spark in their hearts that connects the mortals even to the elements.[8] Spirit brings balance to fire, earth, air, and water, and the reason that Azeroth’s elementals are so chaotic is because, as it developed, Azeroth’s unusually vast world-soul consumed much of planet’s Spirit.[10]
Literally said… “it’s as far as you can get from Necromancy.” And what’s as far as you can get? The opposite. Which, you just said…
So what exactly are you even arguing here when you just proved my point?
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They’ve always been able to use the Light, it’s simply painful. Discipline was a blending of both although gameplay it’s kind of a whatever spec (I don’t really like it myself). Pre-bc you went 30 points into disc and 21 into holy or shadow and you LIKED IT. Because it blended nicely and wasn’t its own spec… oh wait. I’m babbling.
In any case, I don’t see how an undead could physically be a paladin since they are vessels for the light to be channeled and would probably die after a few divine storms.
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Easy - Light forged Undead
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I’d switch to undead light forged or regular in a heartbeat if they every let them have paladins
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LOL xD
I will say the fun thing about other MMO’s is no race gating. Since players aren’t canon you can do whatever you want. Makes for a lot of diversity. But I come back to WoW because the UI and combat is better and the raids are always more interesting. They also change up powers each expac rather than “you’re still the same class but we added in new armours.” WoW is like “NEW GAME!” and Shadowlands is going to be “Lololol there is NO META. YOU’RE ALL META” and it’s going to confuse people in the best way possible.
So, Worgen monks anyone?
Calia is the only one of her type. Alonsus Faol almost bursts into flames for using holy magic and as far as I remember Archbishop Benedictus wasn’t an undead during the hour of twilight and then was killed.
As I said, Calia is a good excuse for blizzard to maybe introduce new classes for the forsaken, but she still is the only one to be turned undead by the power of light, and it took the combined power of Alonsus and Anduin, and I doubt Anduin would be happy to be used as a battery to add more undead to the horde.
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Because it makes absolutely 0 sense.
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Lorewise holy undead are possible, as is undead using and channeling the light as a holy priest.
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They’re linked, is the point I’m making. You can’t have the synthesis without the thesis and the antithesis. The force that gives animus to the living could easily give it to the dead. In a way that, say, Arcane can’t.
The Draenei didn’t embrace shamanism until they were on Draenor, so the Lightforged wouldn’t really have any reason to have any shamans in their number.
Canonically possible, Priestesses of the Moon are basically bow-wielding paladins. I don’t personally support them until there’s some kind of class glyph system that changes how spells appear, though. There’s no reason for a Priestess of the Moon to be throwing around the human’s golden Light.
Chi is Spirit, which is basically a more tangible form of Life Energy. It’s the same stuff that that powers stuff like the Green and Red dragonflights and Druids as a whole.
The opposite of Spirit is Decay, which is one step down from necromancy.
In short, there are no undead shamans, because to be a shaman you need to be running around with a good amount of life energy.
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YOU try messing with fire and lightning when you’re skin is already rotting!
Bad idea! BAD IDEA!
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A better question is why they went to so much trouble to give kt undead druid forms instead of undead.
As a mage, I disagree. Where a shaman merely beseeches the elements of fire and ice, we control them, never felt better than when I am running around encircled in flames