I mean, I’ll bite and call out the problem, but it’s not the “problem” you think. The problem is more this was settled lore on why there weren’t high elves, because they became the blood elves and we allowed a bunch of people who don’t know anything about the lore demand it be bent and twisted so they could have some niche race on a faction.
Blizzard needs to stop gutting the hell out of their lore just to appease players that refuse to take “no” for an answer.
So yes, I am here to call attention to the following problem:
Blizzard has no spine and lets players who have a tenuous at best grasp on the lore of the game drive sweeping changes to the lore just to justify giving them things they keep crying for and it makes the story feel inauthentic and lazy af. There is absolutely no reason we needed to overhaul the lore of High Elves, retcon just how impactful losing the Sunwell was to High Elves, then BS up a completely new and random race that uses their model on top of add a series of customization changes just because some people would not stop crying about “muh high elves!”
FFS I bet most of the high elf acolytes on these forums couldn’t even begin to tell me the exact differences between High Elves and Blood Elves. BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE. THEY’RE THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE JUST WITH A DIFFERENT TITLE AFTER AN EVENT. Blood Elves aren’t high elves with a magic addiction like some different breed. They’re high elves who served Kael’thas after the Sunwell that was sating the magic addiction of ALL High Elves was destroyed.
Except there are still High Elves. Blood Elves are distinct because they succumbed to their hunger and engaged in mana tapping. The High Elves either refused to do that, or were not present to do that.
So you’re saying just give high elves instead of the abomination that was Void Elves? I agree wholeheartedly.
This isn’t true. High Elves are still mana dependent, which is why they are allowed pilgrimmage to the well still. They just didn’t agree to tapping into living beings for mana.
There is at least 5 lore characters that are half breeds in the game, with 2 of them major horde characters.
And if i recall currectly there was a decently large group of half dreanie/orcs that was enslaved in wc2. They kinda fell off the planet story-wise.
The other 3 is re-occuring side charecters of 2 major alliance characters and 1 alliance supporting charecter.
Arator is also a half elf, son of alleria and turalyon.
Yes they did. There was a MAJOR FORUM PUSH TO BLIZZARD TO DO EXACTLY THAT FOR YEARS WITH CONSTANT FORUM SPAMMING TO DO THAT.
You need to get that straight, it would had never happened that way if they did not do that, in fact blizzard even mentioned that the only reason VE gotten the customization in SL is due to “passionate players” (they where not) requests.
Allot of ppl also liked VE for what they where and did not wanted nor cared if they gotten the SL customization passes for natural looks on them. They wanted VE to remain unique.
Tell the forum spammers that back then. You would get constantly bullied for the opposite.
Players acted in spite, against blizzard, players that wanted a distinction, and those that did not wanted VE to be anything other then about the void. It was blatantly clear what they wanted, which lead to everyone losing except a minor few on the forums that bullied others.
they just wanted a unchanged BE model with on alliance.
Again the change to VE was player driven. Get it straight.
What are you talking about? Blizzard made the choice to not make high elves vanish after TBC. That wasn’t on the people requesting high elves, because the decision to make blood elves join the Horde was still pretty recent by the time Wrath rolled by.
Make Blood Elves join the Horde => clarify that all high elves became blood elves following the creation of the new Sunwell => High elf requests die out over time because high elves don’t exist anymore as a separate entity
That’s how things should have played out. The players had nothing to do with Blizzard doing the opposite (introduce the Silver Covenant and ranger lodge elves). That’s all on Metzen and whoever else made the writing decisions at the time.
cause they’ve been part of the alliance lore-wise for a long, LONG time, and much like the horde with ogres, the alliance players want all the races part of the faction, to be playable.
there’s more reasons than that, but i’m not the person to list them.
Highborne, High Elves (whom they should have also found some common ground with as outcasts during their Nightfallen phase), Night Elves (their direct relatives) and a bunch of magic-centered races the Alliance has
If the difference hasn’t been spelled out clearly enough for you, I don’t think the problem is the explanation.
Ah, yes, the “let’s split hairs as fine as we can to make the entire argument pointless” bit.
I’m not wrong in saying Blood Elves succumbed to hunger. They literally tapped living creatures for mana. High Elves didn’t. Simple enough for you? Got it now? Do we need to drag this point down further into simplicity for you to get it?
You mean like for any of the other various races that constantly got spammed for across the years?
So now you’re trying to say that requests for the pile of slop we got handed at the end of Legion to at least be a bit closer to something reaching at what people want is an example of it being the players’ ‘fault’ the race exists to begin with? What?
A lot of people don’t like Void Elf, and want High Elf instead of the rearpull we got. Void Elf is literally a fringe group of Blood Elves so small it shouldn’t be a playable race.
I like how your only bit is “THE FORUM SPAMMERS!” instead of anything of substance. I’ve been on these forums since before Legion. I remember the discussions back then. Don’t need you to tell me.
Right, because Blizzard very typically goes “OH NO PEOPLE WANT THIS DONE” and immediately rushes to do that. Right…
Yeah, no, sorry. Your entire premise holds no water. Nobody forced Blizzard to do the half-baked implementation of Void Elves, just like nobody forced them to add customizations to it later.
Void Elves, regardless of your personal mistaken view of them, are a fringe group of elves so small that they shouldn’t be playable. If High Elves are too sparsely populated to be playable, Void Elves shouldn’t be playable at all and should possess a minimal presence in the Alliance at best. Nobody made Blizzard add these pieces of crap to the game.
