My counterargument was that in the grand scheme of things the time between the announcement and launch of Stalagg is irrelevant.
If you are planning to roll Herod and on launch it turns out the queues are longer than you’d actually like to wait you have no one to blame but yourself.
For your sake and the sake of everybody else with a group as big as yours, I hope everyone is committed to their name and hours long waits as much as they say they are.
What I see happening is a splintering of big groups like yours. People can’t group up together like they planned when you and Tim have been in for 20 minutes,Jill is 50th in line and who are your tank and heals are 3026 and 5673 in line.
You coordinated with your guild who will be doing what and your level 5 waiting for wand but your guilds designated enchanters haven’t even got in yet.
A wait like you guys are seemingly going to have isn’t going to be easy to work around.
I feel bad too because I feel like people are giving in to this whole Herod’s Heroes gimmick. People who are actually serious about being serious are going to avoid this place.
As it stands you guys are going to be #1 at waiting in line.
This guy said it in the first post. Once you get that huge que even on launch night with layers, people will change their minds. Also once Phase 2 hits the real que begins.
Stop with the random name selector for most of these servers - classic servers had epic names relating to WC3 lore (for the most part) so keep that going. Grobbulus is pretty terrible for an RP-PvP server as well. Emerald Dream? Yea that was a good one…sorry you’re missing the mark so badly here on names Blizz…come on.
For those of us who have been playing since wow became a “thing” our names are a big part of us. If they didn’t matter I doubt you would have seen the chaos that was self evident at name reservation time.
Right, so they’re throwing at a themed dartboard instead of something stretched across the entire game/lore.
The point stands, I’m just glad we didn’t get the EU names because most of those are flat out horrible. There’s ‘not exciting for you’ and there’s ‘picked by someone who never played WoW’ from a list of bosses happening here.
Classic Wow is a phenomenon. Phenomenons, by their nature, can’t be managed down to a T. They just sort of happen, to an extent.
My priorities in descending order:
playing Classic wow again
short/no wait times logging in
stable server
fun
character names I like
server names - meh
I thought the original post about Stalagg was that it was a EU server. I did not realize until the following day it was East Coast. I moved (Alliance) 5 characters to it from Mankrik, as Mankrik had gotten bloated. I did not mind that I was going to be a minority on a Pve server, due to my priorities. Pvp vs pve server is more fun, due to the tension (even though I do not pvp) so I moved to Stalagg that following day. If it becomes bloated, and they open more servers before launch, I may move again. The server name means nothing to me. I just want to play and have fun. Priorities.
I never complained about wait times or queues in my original post. I think you inferred that somehow, but that was not the point of my post. My post was criticism in the way Stalagg was launched. It had nothing to do with queues (just in passing when making my point that the severity of the overpopulation was not explicitly stated until after the new server had been up).
But i agree with you that anyone rolling on Herod shouldnt really complain. I am rolling there, but you wont here whining out of me because i know what to expect. But that is completely unrelated to my criticism of the way the Stalagg launch was handled.
Yes, there was not enough of a window given for players to coordinate and jump ship without being stuck in a catch-22 where they have to give up their names, and not be guaranteed to get them back on the new server – which sucks.
The second is that how do we know with the massive influx of players at launch that Stalagg will actually be any better off? If it was assured that by jumping ship that there would be little or no queue then by all means, but we don’t know that.
Servers are insanely over populated just from players reserving names. The first two days of launch are going to be a disaster and spinning up new servers is going to be inevitable at this point.
So if blizzard truly was dead serious about “fixing” the Herod problem they created when they announced so few server choices in the first place, they need to do something drastic.
My proposal is straight up Delete Herod. Give players a week notice that this time next weekend Herod is going away and players will need to reserve new character names.
In Herod’s place, stand up 3 new servers, 2 east coast pvp servers and 1 west coast. This way, players have several choices (including stalagg) for the population to spread out and to help deal with the still inevitable massive queue time from the flood of players on launch day.
Any other solution will not resolve the issue and they will bleed subs from large chunks of their potential player base not even being able to play the game in the first place.
If you are playing by yourself or with one or two, sure. But if you are rolling with 15 other people, coordinating this and making sure people all have their names on launch day is an unrealistic pivot.
Explicitly state that Herod was specifically overcrowded and there would be 10k+ queues (instead of saying all this well after Stalagg opened)
Announce a new realm with a cool name, but have it set at LOCKED so people don’t know the relative population and can’t roll new toons there.
Open up the new realm for character transfers from Herod, ensuring Herod people get to keep their names.
After a specified grace period of like 2-3 days, unlock the new realm for new character creation.
But it’s too late now. If they tried doing this now it would just leave Stalagg in the dust as the least populated PVP realm and people wouldn’t roll there for fear of it becoming a dead server. Blizzard really messed up with their approach to opening new servers. I check the forums constantly and even I didn’t know about Stalagg until a few hours after it was already open to character creation.