Been playing since release. Wow started dropping people when this new thing called “trolls” ruined chat. Barrens chat, trade chat, etc… the first 3 or 4 years there was a real community feel to the game. This will fail if that happens again. Otherwise there are many like myself who will decide to stay on this version instead of the candy version that retail has become. Just my observations. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves.
Layering is why. If 20,000 players log into Herod they can make 7 layers of 3,000 players on the same server and not impact performance.
Then in 3 months when all the lookyloos are gone and there are only 5,000 active players on prime time they can use 2 layers or none since they claim the architecture can handle more players. Of course just becasue4 they can handle more doesn’t mean the player experience will be good, especially in cities.
The only real negative of layers is if there remain more than 3 - 5K players on a server you won’t be able to get to know the other players, which is the core experience we vanilla enthusiasts want.
Agreed.
I would be unsurprised to have dead realms in a year, even before full content release, simply because the long gaps in content are going to make the modern players bored.
Though I think they’ll bite the bullet and seriously consider merging realms with Classic, to free up the server resources.
Most of the MMORPGs, yea, they tried to follow in wow’s footsteps and were just copies of WoW, and bad copies at that. The ones that tried to do something different with an action combat system or something similar, failed because you cant do that with any type of latency at all. SWTOR had the best chance but they bungled the end game so badly that most raiders quit after a few months.
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I don’t think they are underestimating how many players there will be. I think they are preparing for waves. Launch is going to be huge. Then when each phase is released players will return.
Layering means a couple months after launch and each phase that the server doesn’t appear dead.
If they have 50 servers and capped them at 3K players they would all be dead.
So instead of doing cross server they are doing layering, it’s the opposite of the phasing we have traditionally experienced in WoW.
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Its just vertical instead of horizontal. Fact is 5 is still too few. There arrogance crumbles soon.
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I’m giving up retail the second classic launches… but if anything they made too many. There will be a huge rush at launch and layering will accommodate those folks. A few weeks or months later, a fraction of all those people will still be playing.
If that proves to be wrong, they can easily launch new servers. What they really can’t do is start server merges, that would be the beginning of the end of the great Classic experiment.
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Same here.
I guess your right. If they offer free xfsers and make a good amount of servers. People can network and split up the big pops. Like in good old days.
I had an utterly amazing time last night and all through this morning.
I leveled through Teldrassil and Northshire Abbey. I watched people start off not saying anything and ignoring each other, and I smiled as the content forced us all to work together. I saw the tentative “wanna group for this” start to happen, and then by the end we were all drive-by buffing everyone we came across and auto-accepting groups in questing areas and saying “thank you,” and I even got a “you’re so welcome.” Mages were freely handing out mage water (which we all actually needed–badly). It was exactly what I remembered, and it was so, SO fun.
I fished in my old spots. I leveled tailoring and enchanting far enough to make my own bags and wands. I leveled cooking the old way. I killed Hogger, y’all. It was a great, great good time.
I also spent hours looking at all the mods that are in various stages of development and completion, finding the ones I like and tweaking my mod setup for live dropping.
Now. Right now, I could not feel anything but positive about what’s coming. So explain to me how you’re this ready to be all doom and gloom. They’ve given us our old game back. It’s perfect. It is everything we asked for, and it is everything even the most strident and puritanical amongst us hoped to get.
How are you not celebrating this?
How do you come out of a stress test that went THAT well and come here with prognostications of wreck and ruin? I don’t get it.
I’m stoked, my dudes (and dudettes). I’m so excited to play for real next week.
(edited to add: This is Meriweather, btw. This toon is a bank alt from a server I haven’t played on since Wrath. I have NO CLUE how on earth this toon became my avatar here).
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Me ^^ .
That post was from me.
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I had a great time too. Still think it’s weird they only added such a small amount of realms.
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I don’t. For all the reasons people listed. I was relieved to see they didn’t go overboard. I don’t want dead servers. I want living, full, populated servers with thriving economies and society.
And if the community playing Classic is too big for the servers they’ve provided, they will make more. It’s not weird. It’s smart. It’s a good thing. It means they’re watching and paying close attention to how the beta and stresses have gone. They’ve made what the stresses indicated they should make, and they are prepared to make more on short notice if opening day proves the stress & beta numbers wrong.
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Alex was right…
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You can literally assume bottom of the barrel populations for Classic
and the amount of servers still won’t be enough
why are people actually okay with this? makes no sense.
What happened to the actual classic community?
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Look, the poster boy for trolling and hypocrisy is yet again trolling by using scare tactics (which he criticized once before) to promote mega servers…
Did you actually play Classic WoW back in the day? You say you did, but it doesn’t seem like it. 1 Million is intentionally low balling an estimation.
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It’s ok. Within a few months they’ll realize they wasted countless hours on the forums and have hundreds of posts of proof showing them to be not knowing what they’re talking about.
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This seems like the right number of realms to incorporate. Classic isn’t and won’t be as popular as people hope it to be. Blizzard knows this.
They are probably basing the realm number on a few variables: percentage of players who bothered installing the client, percentage of players who even clicked on the classic tab in the launcher, percentage of players who have even checked the classic forums, etc etc. I’m sure they have enough telemetry data to get a decent estimate of how many people to expect. Plus, they can always add more layers to realms to compensate if they get overpopulated.
They just said in their shareholder call yesterday that anticipation and excitement for Classic was overwhelmingly greater than expected. You’re just saying nonsense because you don’t want Classic to succeed. It’s going to be huge.
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Yeah. See how many actually play and avoid dead servers. If many more play, make more