Why Premades in Battlegrounds Are Actually Good

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Hey everyone,

I know premades in battlegrounds are controversial, but I’ve been thinking—maybe they’re not the real enemy. In fact, I’d argue that premades actually strengthen battlegrounds, much like how competition strengthens any market.

Here’s the thing: when you face a premade, it’s rough. But that friction forces you to adapt, improve, and maybe even queue with others to survive. Over time, everyone levels up. The presence of organized teams doesn’t destroy the experience; it refines it. Without that challenge, battlegrounds risk becoming stagnant—a series of predictable, uncoordinated skirmishes where growth is slow and learning is optional.

It’s easy to blame premades for bad experiences in random queues, but isn’t that a little shortsighted?

Maybe the real frustration comes from something deeper—something systemic that’s harder to pin down. And honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize this is starting to sound a lot like what negative gearing is doing to housing markets.

Hear me out.

Premades are to battlegrounds what property investors are to housing. They swoop in with better coordination (capital), stack the odds in their favor (tax benefits), and lock down wins (housing stock). For solo players (first-time buyers), that can feel insurmountable. But are the premades the problem… or is it the system that lets them dominate unchecked?

Negative gearing creates an environment where established players can keep winning, using their existing assets to secure more, while new entrants struggle to break in. This is the same mechanism driving inequality in housing. Investors leverage negative gearing to expand their portfolios, pushing prices up and keeping everyday buyers out. Over time, the gap grows wider, and those trying to enter the market are left scrambling for scraps.

TL;DR:

The solution isn’t banning premades, it means rethinking tax policies and prioritizing first-home buyers over repeat investors.

At the end of the day the housing market thrives when more people can participate and succeed.

Would love to hear your thoughts!

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Didn’t understand a word of that, but I agree about nerfing frost mages.

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It was like overnight there were thousands of them, hundreds even.

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The mental gymnastics here could send you to the olympics.

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I think that they need to somehow redesign epic BGs so that losing doesn’t feel like a big waste of time. They can add some secondary objectives, like a quest to destroy X enemy vehicles, or do X damage to the walls, or make X kills. So that even while fighting a losing battle you’re working towards something.

Even better if they have tiers, like the theatre troupe. Like, you destroy 1 demo, you get green box with honor already. You destroy 5 demos, you get blue box with tiny conquest. You destroy 10 demos, you get purple conquest box etc.

This would keep individual players busy, even while they’re losing.

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They simply need to put some love into random bgs. They are so imbalanced these days.

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Premades are more akin to mafias. You have to join to get protection otherwise you get smoked. If you fall out of line for percieved mistakes/sleights you lose said protections.

The housing market is a stupid comparison considering most of the houses held by investors sit empty.

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Interesting take, but I’m not buying it. Comparing premades to housing markets feels like a bit of a reach. The real problem isn’t some deep systemic inequality—it’s that premades steamroll solo players in what’s supposed to be a casual, random experience.

Sure, challenges can help people improve, but getting stomped by a fully coordinated team isn’t exactly a learning opportunity—it’s just frustrating. Most solo players queue for fun, not to deal with that. Premades turn randoms into a grind.

If the system lets premades dominate, it’s broken. The fix isn’t debating analogies—it’s practical stuff, like separate queues or better matchmaking.

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That existed in Legion. You could end up with blue/purple PVP gear from a box even if you lost in any BG because you had enough honor playing objectives (eg flag captures).

:surfing_man: :surfing_woman:

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I don’t dislike premades, but I do believe if you’re in a premade you should only que against other premades.
Stomping a random assortment of 10-40 people while you’re que syncing and premade stacking isn’t fair and there’s no arguing against that.

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I was just trying to put it in terms that people here could understand I stopped reading after you disagreed with me

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There, summarized it and made it a bit more honest.

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Thank you please

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teamwork makes the dream work

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Exploiting isn’t “teamwork” if you truly wanted what you claimed you wanted you would play the modes made for what you claim you want. Yet you don’t.

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what level of working together is acceptable to you in a random bg?

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Not exploiting would be a start.

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How can pugs be better if they get rolled almost instantly by a premade stacked with 10 heals?

The solution is to have premades fight premades. That will force people to get better and come up with new strats and so forth.

But these premades, especially horde are so busy on dodging other premades. They enjoy fighting pugs. They even make videos of it for YouTube “content”.

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what sucks is i took a break for 2 months only to come back to long queues and endless matches vs the same premades over and over. it’s so bad, i can’t even get a win for the daily so i can get conquest to buy gear. it’s funny, after 10 pm west coast time, it feels like there is more alliance mercs than active horde now. rip horde.

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Farming crates is the fastest way to gear for a solo player. Sad but true.

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