Why Metzen's elevation is important

Blizzard has been doing that since Wotlk or before. It got really bad and has stayed that way since around MoP, where we have events taking place in the game with no frame of reference because the catalysts or events leading up to or before happened in a book.

New and returning players must have no clue what’s happening with the story when they level up. It’s a mess. For instance, if you do MoP, it ends with Garrosh captured. Then WoD hits, and the dude’s running around free in another dimension, his trial and escape contained in a book lol

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Actually, if you level in MoP, the only time you see Garrosh is in the early cinematics. You know the people who say, “Garrosh did nothing wrong!” Well, according to the game as it is presented to players, that is absolutely correct.

The events of an expansion are gone now. Leveling is intended to level up players by introducing them to the factions that will later participate in events.

I’m so looking forward to his influence within the team again!

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To me it was just an added bonus. :slight_smile: I don’t think any book was necessary to the game. To me it was kinda like how I’d lose out on end game because of not doing dungeons or raids. My choice, just like the books. I just got passionate about it, hence the reading - it was and is fun.

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doesn’t sound like role playing games are for you.

When I leveled my first character in Durotar toward the end of MoP, I ran into a lot of NPC’s who were saying things that clearly were supposed to mean something to me, but what was not at all apparent. I did quests where I was supposed to rescue npc’s from “the recent floods”. Okay, there’s been floods. No explanation of what I actually was supposed to recognize as the intro to an upcoming expansion that was long past.

That’s when I learned that Blizzard doesn’t care that the story new players are presented with is clearly broken and not even intended to make sense to them.

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Hi, I started mid Mist’s as well - EVERYTHING was unclear, I had no back story reference. For me that’s why I picked up the first books and Chronicles. I understand many feel as you do. I guess because I read the books, (not the comics or anything else) I just didn’t notice how anything was left out that was pertinent to the story. But, yes, being totally honest I can see how maybe a few things would have made a difference. Not many though.

Wait, they got rid of all of the cinematics concerning the bell and the vale and the heart? Krasarang? So…major parts are in books and missing from the game? It’s a bigger mess than I thought. Wonder how anyone even knows who the villain is in MoP…

I don’t recall seeing any of those cinematics you are referring to. There was something after opening the gate to the Vale, but it really didn’t mean anything to me. Garrosh never appears again to levelers after appearing during the Horde introduction to Jade Forest.

Hm, I wonder if it has a lot to do with getting rid of the cloak questline, and if you’re leveling, you’re not going to do Krasarang and interact with Garrosh or the Thunder Isle. You probably wouldn’t see him destroy the Vale either. Or attempt to assassinate Vol’Jin or Lorthemar try to defect and Jaina expel the BE from Dalaran.

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That whole quest chain was immaculate. even the more intimate bits before Senegos, when Kalec was at the bar letting out his feelings. I felt that hit me right in the gut.

And then the first in-game hug in the history of WoW.

People clown on the current story but it’s really not bad. A jewel in the rough, I’d think of this expansion.

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The Vale is already destroyed. This is not linked to story progress.

Leveling content:

  1. Meet new races.
  2. Do them favors.
  3. Kill their enemies.
  4. Get rewards.

Next step: get rid of Ian

People are quick to forget that he was the first one to “ruin” WoW. Cata sucked and he was front and center for that, him returning is like the landfill dropping off the mound of garbage you got rid of years ago right in front of your house again.

Its great news, however; the damage is done with the recent expansions and mostly SL, I don’t longer see any dialogue about death with that mistery, its like if you go back to WoD storyline and wonder why some souls are still present, Why the Kyrian are not working??..etc SL killed that aspect of death for Warcraft culture IMO.

Also, I wonder if Blizzard wants to expand Classic to a new time line (Classic +) , because a lot of people ask about that but its basically doing 2 games instead of doing a relaunch of old versions and the main game with new story…if that’s their goal, then the community will split between games a lot more, since Metzen new role is about Warcraft in general which could imply also another games in this universe besides WoW but right now He’s focus on WoW but they didn’t say which one.

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and yet i’m having a great time while the “story is everything!!!” people are unhappy.

makes you think…

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Retail is a trash game ran on corporate greed. Chris Metzen will be like that chef that has no control over the kitchen because the idiot restaurant owner wants to make all the decisions.

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This is the type of thing that has me tilted. I am happy for Metzen, yes. and anything that can improve morale between the players and the devs, I’m all for. Let the Metzen train go full throttle.

The guy is not infallible though. Because he alone can’t save WoW, and such notions are ridiculous ams y’all are fooling yourselfes. WoW effectively needs its own Bible. It needs something to keep the lore, story and its characters a lil more consistent. I get that Chronicle has quite a few issues in it, but a.lot of the long-term damage (speaking strictly from a narrative perspective) started to occured coincidentally when it started getting reconned.

Yeah, so literally none of the actual story outside of the intro quests…

Well, there a lot of casual players that really like the story, the problem is that Blizzard killed most of the lore from WC3 that was the foundations for the best expansions, now we only have their new ideas which didn’t match the communtiy.

Also, I agree that there’s a community that just focus on the gameplay system but I won’t say which one is bigger, since we don’t have that kind of metric and there’s an mix of players that’ll like both…at the end WoW retail now is more about gameplay, so it should be the priority, even if there’s an amazing lore, the game has become so different from expansions on which gameplay wasn’t this kind of seasonal beast.

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