I’m not a hardcore player but I’d at least like to push for 2500 in M+ each season and I’d ideally like to to do it on my monk because the windwalker playstyle is so enjoyable.
I’ve been playing monk for a decade and I can’t remember the last time we weren’t ranked at the lower tiers of DPS and it looks like we’re in for more of the same in Midnight.
It’s hard to justify pushing M+ on my monk when my DH does everything my monk can do but better and with less gear.
I’m part complaining but part asking: is it because monks are able to tank and heal that they are treated so poorly as DPS?
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A few things,
- Pushing for 2500 can be done with any spec, Windwalker is MORE than capable of doing 2500 or 3000 or even 3500 without any issue.
- If you’ve been playing for a decade then you were playing when:
- Windwalker was the best spec in the game during Antorus, in both Mythic+ and Raids
- Windwalker was so good at AOE during S2 of Shadowlands that they changed the format for MDI to remove class stacking
- Windwalker was one of the top M+ specs during S1 of Dragonflight due to Fatal Flying Guillotine
- Windwalker was in the RWF kills for Gallywix and Dimensius.
- Any attempt at prognosticating how Windwalker’s damage will be in Midnight is about a month, if not 2 months, premature. There has been no balance tuning done to balance specs with each other.
- DH has spent nearly as much time struggling as Windwalker has in the past expansion or two. They just seem more immune to negative community perception, something about the blindfold.
To answer your question:
No. There is no evidence that a spec being able to tank and or heal has any interaction with how strong its DPS spec(s) is(are). The indirect evidence of this is just that the more DPS specs a class has, the more likely that at least one of them will be strong.
This is more correlation than causation. For example, Shadow Priests have spent the most time above the average, in Raid data, out of any spec over the last 5 expansions, but if you look at classes as a whole, Warlocks and Mages are 1st and 2nd in that regard.
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Hardly anyone plays any spec of monk so people don’t understand them much. It’s also very much talked about that a monk is either really good or bad and there’s not much in between.
In the last 15 mythics I’ve done I’ve had like 4 MW’s and no WW’s (as prot warr). I’ve wanted a WW multiple times with a few melee heavy groups though and not one applied.
Don’t apply to or join groups that are caster heavy if you have options. If you’re doing 2500 the chances are nobody knows what you bring for them or just follow what they think is “meta”. They really don’t get what you do or why. Move up into the 3k+ bracket and people will start to be much more appreciative.
I wasn’t able to get much mythic+ in this season on WW. But I’ve been playing more since changes, and I’m better than most at my GS.
With “Monks being either great or terrible” I’d say the WW probably doesn’t know their rotations and is clipping FoF or something. If they’re at the same ilvl as the group they should be doing at least avg imo if not above avg.
Someone else pointed out complaining about balancing right now is a bit of a mute point, which I tend to agree. Unless Monks are just bottom and they’re doing everything correctly (which WW isn’t bottom from what I see), lvl 90 endgame is when you’ll see who’s really underperforming after gear scaling.