Don’t visit the forums if you don’t want to see any of these.
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Is WoW the only online game you’ve played?
There are plenty of online games with toxicity.
You should try CoD. WoW might look like a peaceful place after that.
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Because you’d be wasting their time. They’d rather you not waste the time they have to play so they ask you do all of the above and if you don’t meet their demands they’ll replace you with someone else. But not every guild or community is like this.
Garrison was less than 5% of the game and you could/did still do those things…
It was just the same in WOD, Cata, Mop, and started in Wrath really
I highly doubt this, no one really cares in lowbie dungeons, they just run thru, having leveled on toons that basically do no damage…
LOL really…
From your whole post you seem to want the same community as what there was in Vanilla and TBC without mythics…
I’d suggest you go play classic, you’ll find it more to your liking
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Iv never played an online game that wasn’t toxic.
Just have to find the right people to play with.
You almost say this as if you believe there is another popular game that isn’t toxic?
Ok this is getting problematic.
Anecdotal: not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research.
Synonyms: unreliable, unscientific, based on hearsay
So are you or are you not invalidating what the OP is saying from her own personal experiences? Cause it seems to me that you’re saying that her opinion and experience of WoW toxicity does not matter. And that’s not an emphatic or healthy attitude to have when someone is posting about something bothering them. Therefore, toxic.
Interesting. I recently leveled a rogue from 20-120 and never got kicked. Not once. And I didn’t do great damage either.
I have leveled at least 6-7 characters the past month or so thanks to this XP boost, and I don’t think I have heard anyone say anything in low level dungeons.
In fact the issue with WoW is no one wants to talk to anyone at all anymore. You queue, you kill the things, you leave.
But that’s beside the point. WoW has always had a toxic community, just like every other game on the internet, because anonymity promotes toxicity. And that’s never gonna change.
And I don’t want anonymity to change either. Blizzard tried to do that in Wrath by tying Real ID to gear drops. Needless to say the community lost its collective crap.
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Why do people try to defend WoW’s toxicity by saying other games/genres are just as bad or worse? THAT HAS NO BEARING ON WOW BEING A TOXIC CESSPIT. stop bringing that up to try and “disprove” it.
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Who cares about other games? Wow inherently is a joke and if you can’t even chest a 10-15 then it’s not the game that’s difficult it’s human error or just lazy/incompetent play, there are dozens of 3rd party websites from youtube, wowhead, mmochampion, icy-veins and class discords that can answer and provide guides on anything you could possibly think of. Most of the player base is just too lazy to go and do what everyone else has done since this information has become available online and put in the time/effort like everyone else, but not that’s too much work to do an hour or two of research so you don’t inconvenience those that have, me sub, me log in, me get loot, too difficult, whine on here because bad, me quit. This type of player should get lost, I really couldn’t care less if the game loses 50% of it’s player base you shouldn’t capitulate to players that inherently aren’t going to be more than a tourist for a few months especially with how much of a joke the systems already are.
The loot system currently is a joke as well, you literally get like 10 pieces of gear a week from visions, lfr-norm-heroic, world quests, crafting, boes, invasions, weekly caches and the only requirement is to play the game. The thing is wow has different brackets of difficulties, if you suck and you can clear lfr and normal then stay there until you get better, there’s no harm in that as that content was made for you at that difficulty level. Just because someone subs, logs in doesn’t mean they should have access to mythic raid without putting in the same amount of time/effort and acquiring the same amount of skill as the rest of us.
Everything is toxic when your community is filled with entitled sentimental kids:
- You joined a farm heroic group, you screwed up xanesh football, you get kicked.
- Why did you kick me raid leader?
- Cause this isnt a learning group, this is a farming group and you failed the mechanic.
- WOW SO TOXIC, THIS GAME IS FULL OF TOXICITY, HOW DARE YOU KICK ME FOR THAT REASON, YOUR ELITISM IS DISGUSTING.
Literally every meme player labbeling everything as toxic, they are such a joke, plenty of these on GD too.
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Counterpoint though, people seem to expect perfection and lash out vehemently at anything else. It’s like kicking someone off your football team because they threw an interception one game.
Repeated times yeah sure you replace them and DO IT POLITELY (that part seems to be missed). I think that’s the main reason it gets labelled “toxic”. Because it’s usually worded rude at best or straight up insulting at worst.
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I love my guild, they help me have a good time and ignore the meanies. 
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Well xanesh is a niche example cause it needs half perfection since you can fail only once (on heroic), but thats why i specified farming group, plenty of pugs nowadays considering how far we are into the patch are indeed not learning groups but farming groups, farming groups means you join knowing what to do, so theres no room for patience or any learning memes, thats for learning groups, and its totally understandable if you get kicked for memeing once, and this is stupidly considered toxic.
Yes. I agree with this. I don’t think anyone is saying its toxic to remove someone who clearly isn’t sure on the mechanics when you’re expecting everyone to know it already. However that should A) be made clear from the start, B) maybe that person is given a chance or two (once to reiterate what needs to be done because some groups do things differently) and C) if they need to be removed do it tactfully not with insulting/being condescending.
It’s that last part that usually gets the “you’re toxic” part because of how it gets done. There’s a right way and a wrong way to do it and most people do it the wrong way. If someone is underperforming and needs to be replaced you can do it politely without trying to shame them or make them feel like crap for “wasting everybody’s time” or other rude statements.
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Thats the catch, ive seen in this same forum that the only act of kicking some1 or even worse declining some1 for X reason (assuming no insults) is seen as elitism and toxic, this is whats stupid and hilarious at the same time for me, the amount of exaggeration from people nowadays to label everything as elitist and toxic, despite everyone with more than 2 braincells knowing it isnt.
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I mean everything is exaggerated though here in some way or another. Because you always remember the negatives, not so much the positives. People are more likely to remember the rude person who cussed them out and said they were a waste of space for wasting people’s time and think everyone is like that.
Yeah it happens like you say, but despite that there are people that see toxicity everywhere, and their arguments are something else, like you decline some1 cause his io is way too low for a +15 and he hasnt done that key at all, and yet some people use arguments like “you dont let them join in the fun” and “you lack empathy” and stuff like that (i read these 2 in this same forum lol), so for a simple decline you are seen as a toxic elitist player that lacks empathy and what not, its almost paranoid.
Typically if you join a farm group they post that or will say not a learning group, if you then join, fail and waste other peoples time this isn’t the groups fault it’s the players ignorance for not realizing he should probably look at another group that would accept mistakes over one that won’t.
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