A good example of this was an elite set thread in…season 7 about being able to unlock any elite set they wanted after the season ends because someone thought they weren’t going to get their elite set that season at the very end. (Of course the thought that they weren’t going to get their elite set wasn’t said in said thread.) But then, once they actually did get their first 2k right before the season end they made a new forum thread stating that elite sets are precious things and should indeed not be taken away.
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That’s one of the funniest things I’ve ever heard, nobody has ever bragged their 1500 rated xp somehow makes them right.
Only thing I ever see are people saying “Hey I scoured your profile on the character you’re posting, the highest rating you’ve gotten is X” as if that somehow makes them right.
Thanks for proving my point.
I have every right to look someone up if they make a claim that’s obviously false, though. That’s my point. We shouldn’t encourage spouting nonsense when we have no experience in a field to back it. To say: “Getting an elite mog isn’t hard” when you’ve never done it is impossible because how would one know if they’ve never done it. Isn’t that a fair question?
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Wait how is that stupid? Am I gonna listen to an actual climate scientist to talk about Global Warming or some soccer mom who watched a Youtube video on the subject? If someone has the credentials and understands how it functions in and out along with experience to understand the minor nuances and benefits then they have more of a say than someone who doesn’t.
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I strive for excellence without rubbing it in the face of all the casuals.
Assuming everyone only has one character is stupid.
Assuming everyone’s posting on their main is stupid.
It’s just a lot of assumptions and for what? To say “I’M RIGHT AND YOU’RE WRONG!” It’s just stupid in my opinion. All of it.
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I have absolutely had people link 1550 and challenger achievements to try to back up a point with their experience. Just because you don’t see it often on the forums doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
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But if you’ve watched me whenever I post about these type of things I always say something along the lines…
“I sincerely hope you have an alt. Because if not then this is pretty awkward”
And a majority of the time I’m usually correct in my initial assumption. I’d give them the opportunity to present their main but they are posting on their main. What’s stupid is trying to educate people on subject matters they’ve never experienced.
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Exactly. My “Main” tends to change based on my needs and the needs of my guild. For much of BfA, my DK was my main. Then to get Pathfinder Part 2 done quickly I switched to my Human Pally for the rep bonus, and now he’s my strongest character.
Some people have posted on the same toon for years. It’s not their main, just the ‘name’ they use on the forums.
This is false, Drougen. And I knew a four word search on the forums would lead me right to the proof that this is false because I “scoured for the information” on these WoW forums.
When someone makes a claim, Drougen, the burden of proof is on them. We have tools to check and verify people because the proof is on them. The same situation is here in the same exact situation you’re now flipping sides. You said this very quote in this thread. To suddenly act like the burden of proof isn’t on someone making a claim, and we should just blindly accept what people say on these forums when they make a claim is dumb. And this makes you a hypocrite.
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That’s what I said.
I never said you should blindly accept everything anyone says. I just think assuming everyone’s on their main and assuming they’re wrong / their opinions aren’t valid because you checked a single character’s profile is silly, that’s all.
Since you clearly admitted you do that, I’m not surprised you’re assuming something I never said. I know how you are, you’ll do anything to just say “I’m right! You’re wrong!” even if you have to make something up. Sad, really.
Of course I check people. The burden of proof is on people who make a claim, booboo. And in my example, I said if someone claims that getting an elite mog is simple and easy and that the entire point to them / tradition involving them should be overturned because that guy says it should, you’re damn right I’m gonna look them up. They’ve made a claim. Burden of proof is on them.
Achievements are account wide. Wowthugger is also account wide. If you look up Shadjuju-Gorefiend on Wowthugger, you will find that my level 46 hunter has the achievements for 2200+ because I succeeded. Similarly, if you look up Shadjuju-Gorefiend on these very forums, you will see my 2200+ achievements there as well. I have met the burden of proof in that situation.
It’s not sad to verify people. And it’s a shame you feel that way considering I usually agree with you. All I had said was that we have every right to politely inform people when they’re misinformed.
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Same as putting down an ugly guy for trying hard at something. It’s easy.
I myself have alot of fun trying to do better DPS everytime, it’s beneficial for the raid and my low self esteem.
A compilation of the worst of these threads:
Bearer of brilliant new ideas: “Master loot is trash! They need to completely get rid of personal loot, master loot only in all raids, including pugs, and need vs greed in random content.”
Player who thinks this is a really bad idea: “But personal loot is great in random content, much better than any other loot type…?”
Hall monitor: “You’re not a mythic raider! How dare you post in a thread that doesn’t concern you! I’m reporting you for posting on this thread!”
Counter to that. The suggestion that we’ve put forward is that PL is fine to exist as well. Haven’t heard en masse that PL should be removed from the game. What I’ve heard is players asking for the choice of another loot option. And I personally bring up Mythic raiding because it’s the only difficulty where proper loot distribution can either lead to progresssion or creating an anchor for your team.
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They are? I only see people looking down on those who trash other people and call them noobsl/other things because they are so much less skilled then the “elitist”.
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Other counter to that, to tag on to what Jalen has said, people would also be much more inclined to let the Master Looter debacle die (from what I’ve noticed) if the arbitrary 5 item level rule wasn’t in place. The problem isn’t people wishing to control loot. It’s people wishing they had another option so loot isn’t constantly wasted. If I get a 450 ring with versatility and crit, that ring is outright worthless compared to my 415 ring. But because it is an upgrade, I cannot trade it to my fellow guildies who could have desperately used such a massive upgrade.
Those’re the issues.
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Look up any thread on twinking in GD, and tell me how happy everyone is to see someone trying their hardest even at lower levels.
It all devolves into “U CANT CUT IT AT 120” and “YOU ONLY PLAY TO STOMP ON ANTS”.
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This issue isn’t striving for excellence. It’s elitism.
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