Why is Silvermoon not neutral but Bel'ameth and Gilneas are?

I’m not making a universal statement about the world itself, my only concern is about the IN LORE story of the bombardment of Teldrassil from the shores of darkshore so any dig about the walking distance of the continents is irrelevant.

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Just sounds like you ignore lore when it goes against you and cite it when it supports you.

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Lore is a mixed bag.

If a given piece of work is outright contradicted by the game, I go by the game.

If it adds to the world and isn’t directly contradicted, I give it a look and decide on a case by case basis.

As to my cherry picking that’s no different than just about most of the opinions expressed on this venue.

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So do you think Stormwind is like, just a couple hundred people? Like in-game there’s almost no actual houses anywhere. And limited number of NPC’s. Or you can fly an entire continent in a short time.

Again not relevant to the topic at hand.

But to indulge you, yes, and no.

The player experience is exactly as you see it.

The Stormwind that I created for my tabletop play when I ran Warcraft D20, was more of the size of Waterdeep.

As I’ve said there is no unified body of lore, only concurrent streams.

The lore in either essence flatly states that Teldrassil was bombed by ballistae. You just have to find your own way to accept it or opt out of that lore entirely.

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It is relevant because you’re arguing against lore because of a personal standard. So it is an attempt to show you either aren’t actually applying that standard or you’re being unreasonable.

It is one or the other. So in other words no, you’re not even applying your own standard consistently.

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And empowered by shamans, tbf.
Air magic can make things fly further.

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It is absolutely wild to me that they involved azerite weapons and flying machines in the War of Thorns, but the best they could come up with is orcish catapults flinging hot stones across the English Channel.

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Why don’t Horde players understand that goblin technology is steaming garbage?

Are you sure you want to fire the intercontinental giant cannon? Are you sure you want to trust the goblins to have done the correct calculations to make sure the recoil alone doesn’t wipe out mud-hut city?

We all know the answers to those questions. :rofl:

Yeah just kinda weird they never bring up the tree can empower itself. Or that fire as powerful as Archimonde’s didn’t kill a much smaller world tree located much further from water.

Kind of a dumb convenient story that’d didnt bother to think about anything it was writing for. Heck, wind spirits most likely wouldn’t even help you burn a world tree, since in greater lore, they provide energy to the planet. I.E. the elemental spirits of the planet aren’t gonna be that keen on depriving themselves of a power source for no real benefit to themselves.

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Azeroth was a ruined calderra before the titans arrived.

The elementals hold no appreciation for anything in particular without a spirit elemental.

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What is the point of the observation made? World Trees don’t naturally exist, they seemingly would not, from our current knowledge, have existed even if they didn’t do that.

But now that they do exist, what does a wind spirit get out of destroying a power source that gives energy to the natural world? If anything that just inherently includes them, because we know their power goes through the sea based on old darkshore quests about teldrassils ecological impact, and Nordrassil itself at it’s core pumping energy through the whole world.

I mean fire spirits might not care. Most the elemental spirits in the actual elemental planes themselves prolly wouldn’t either. But then, what would the war even offer them- according to BfA all the lesser lords of the elemental planes were in rebellion, so i kinda don’t buy they were pulling from the spirits not -on- Azeroth lmao. The Elements do have agency, lmao. They told Drek’thar no constantly if the things he wanted didn’t make sense for them or weren’t really natural, I.E. no flooding Durnholde.

I just don’t buy that night elves get elemental protection by merit of existence.

They don’t even have shamans, while the horde was almost entirely about shamanism forever.

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Well good thing i didn’t say night elves inherently get elemental protection by merit of existence and said it just makes no sense for wind spirits to actually do it because they get nothing out of it compared to the tree giving them power.

Read the lore of shamanism instead of ‘well it’s a horde class so all it’s lore should just do whatever the horde needs’ lmao

Son.
Lol.

If the elementals were left to their own devices, azeroth would be a caldera.

Again.

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Fun fact. Most the elemental spirits are locked up in places called the Elemental Planes. Which is why that doesn’t happen.

Nothing you’ve said matters even slightly to BfA. Because they’re still busy. I even pointed out how, in BfA, they’re actively all civil warring IN THE PLANES according to Duke Hydraxis.

You’re not saying anything relevant to dismiss anything.

“Yeah if the orcs were demon corrupted still everyone would be dead” is just as pointless of a statement to bring up. Yeah, okay, and? Circumstances change what’s beneficial to them. Do the factions need to be so important to the lore that everything in existence should lose their agency to arbitrarily hype one? That’s stupid.

Idk, Therazane and Ragnaros certainly have very little appreciation for architecture, but Alakir and Neptulon definitely do appreciate buildings :stuck_out_tongue:

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