Mechanically heroic is harder but why is it that every time i do LFR (im the raid lead who calls out everything to make it easier) it takes over 7 wipes guaranteed. Most heroic groups knock him out in 3 attempts or 1 attempt. Is there a specific reason?
Because it requires cooperation, and people go into LFR expecting to do it with one hand while watching questionable material on the other monitor.
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People don’t try and horribly underperform. You also have fresh batches of people popping their heads in with no idea what to do and leave after a single wipe. You have the added barrier of not really being able to effectively refine your strategy due to all of the cycling in and out and it can be hard to cohesively progress toward a kill.
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I was writing a bit…but.
Cute priestie and Naz pretty much summed it up, lol.
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All of this, AND: massive undergearing. People cheese the ilvl requirement any way they can, and then go in with 80k health expecting to one-shot the encounter.
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I remember when Blizzard added the dungeon journal to the game, because people kept saying, “I shouldn’t be expected to go to an outside web site to find out how the encounters work.”
Now that dungeon journal is in the game, it seems to have shifted to “I shouldn’t be expected to read to find out how the encounters work.”
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Ion hates LFR. That’s why it’s not fixed. Anything Ion doesn’t like gets ignored or made worse on purpose.
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I haven’t experienced 7 wipes but usually if the two tanks know what to do the DPS can follow fairly well. Yes, you’ll have some people who don’t hit their necklaces but I still think the biggest contributing factor is tanks, especially the one who goes “down”.
People refuse to learned from their mistaken or to listen what RL tells them to do. So their dps matters (Which their damage is very low) or just afk for free loot.
This is now my favorite post for July!! Unfortunately, I now imagine this happening behind every useless LFR afker 
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I’m going to have to charge you for the visual cortex cleaning I’m going to need. 
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Send me the bill, it was worth it.
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Its not that I can’t play one handed, but I wish I had more hands.
Because of the sanity mechanic. Higher difficulties add more things to potentially drop your sanity, but in LFR people cannot dodge/avoid the base levels of sanity reduction so its an even worse experience.
Main instance being Paranoia, you think someone in LFR will go to their paranoia partner, much less anyone else in the raid avoiding walking over 10 people dropping their sanity?
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Because people don’t work together and follow mechanics. Hence, that’s always why LFR Nzoth is a mess.
People just want it handed to them as usual, so they think they can jump into it and expect to sit there and press a button or two.
I’m glad it’s as difficult as it is. It’s group content that should require some form of team work.
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My man, it’s harder than Mythic.
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Because there at least 10 Donalds per run if not more.
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Over the years Blizzard has conditioned LFR players to give 0 effort and still get rewards. So when something comes around that requires people to give 1/10 effort, they do not know how.
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The people in LFR Nzoth dont really care about doing it. Most are there for a carry and havent even taken the time to learn the fight.
People thats why
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This is only a suggestion, and I don’t mean it to disparage you, but maybe you aren’t explaining the fight correctly, or clearly, or maybe you don’t have everyone’s attention.
Back when N’zoth first came out, sure, I had runs that were 7 wipes, 10 wipes or even more. But these days, when it comes time for me to take my alts into N’zoth, I see it done in 3 to 5 wipes. This is because if the lead isn’t explaining it correctly, I take it upon myself to do so.
- Assign groups and do some kind of test to see if everyone knows their groups.
- If everyone doesn’t understand group assignments (many don’t even know how to see what group they are in) stay on the topic of groups until everyone does.
- Explain what groups do.
- Talk personally to the tanks to make sure they know what to do.
- Sometimes there has to be culling of folks that don’t grasp the “use the neck” concept or certainly of a tank that cannot grasp their role in the mechanics.
Maybe you’ve just had bad luck, I dunno.