I rather wish they’d spend a few dollar on some junior dev going into Ghostlands and the other Belf levelling areas and putting flight into those. I understand the original reason for them not having flight when the rest of Eastern had it, but time’s change, as Garrosh said, and it’s time to update that whole area. (They could block flight over the broken area of Silvermoon City if they didn’t want to fix it up, even though that would be nice too…)
And maybe tell me what the little empty, blocked zone is right up there near Eastern Plaguelands…
I think their reasoning is they want new players on the ground for their first play through to 50/60.
After that they have the option just like everyone else to try all the other xpacs and it’s not unreasonable to expect them to do that instead of heading straight back into BfA.
I also believe they don’t expect most veterans to ever step back into BfA now that they don’t have to. Especially those who didn’t like it enough that they never got the pathfinder for it.
I also expect that they will likely remove BfA’s pathfinder for the xpac after Shadowlands and keep Shadowlands pathfinder for the same reasons.
As a system it makes some sense. Have pathfinder on the two most recent xpacs and force new players to play them to keep them grounded their first play through. But as you add new xpacs you open up flying to old xpac that was previously locked.
I refuse to delve too deep into Draenor or the Broken Isles because of it. Once SL drops, I’ll go on my adventure to find Saberon’s and Botani (I believe they were WoD?) and maybe unlock Argus
I really think WoW players have become desensitized to how ridiculous travel is in WoW. If I wanted to run a specific raid (on someone besides a mage) it could take like 20 minutes just to get to the entrance on WoD/Legion content! And flight paths are incredibly slow, they need to speed up travel by a lot
I’m confused as to why people say this so often. BfA questing wasn’t all that bad to begin with, and the version of BfA that will be getting leveled through in Shadowlands has been streamlined to remove timegates and make the story flow properly. None of the max level grinds that brought resentment will be present, and newbies won’t have legiondaries to lose to sour the experience.
As why they’re doing this, that’s pretty obvious. BfA is by far the most polished and up-to-date leveling experience the game has… I mean do you really want newbies thinking that Outland, for example (as much as I love it) represents the current state of WoW? If you think that newbies will reject BfA, just wait until you see what they do when greeted by the likes of Hellfire Peninsula and Blade’s Edge Mountains.
Will there be a reason for people to go back to Naztajar at this point? I suppose the few who want that awesome crab mount, but beyond that I don’t think there will a lot of traffic there.
Didn’t some numbers come out recently saying less than half of active 120s completed BFA’s full Pathfinder? Wether it’s because people don’t care enough to grind out flying or people legitimately hate it as much as the forum tears make it seem, that is still an abysmal participation rate.
You didn’t mind as a noob. Cool. As a vet who did WoD’s Pathfinder during Legion I wanted to punch a hole in my monitor, because people who could already fly were beating me to the rare spawns or vacuuming up all the quest mobs (this was during the 7.3.5 patch lull, where old content is naturally more popular). Meanwhile since my main played BFA 8.0 and Legion when the Pathfinders were current, I didn’t notice because I “played the game”, as the pro walker crowd states. It was still an obnoxious, blatant control move and time gate by the devs.
Systems in MMOs that punish people for playing content later are just bad. You are hooking the first carrots to a stick for them, and Pathfinder is a pretty rotten carrot. Hopefully SL’s approach is less awful but I have a bad feeling they’re determined to keep it as is until every single pro flyer quits.
Wrath was good. BC was pretty iffy with completely unbalanced classes, getting one-shotted in BGs, boring rep grinds where you collected signets, and the whole Sunwell patch. Aside from a couple of good instances I don’t miss it at all. People complain about emissaries but they’re better than trash farming for rep. I prefer wrath’s tabard system for instance grinding rep. I played an OP hammer rogue in BC and even that got boring after a while.
It is a fact that BC saw nothing but growth in sub count throughout the entire expansion. I’ll take trash farming for rep over time gated garbage we have today.
